tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post4032031286947054256..comments2023-10-26T04:42:55.351-06:00Comments on <b>Zombie Politics</b>: bin Laden PotpourriUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-49799716020999657452011-05-05T23:26:51.027-05:002011-05-05T23:26:51.027-05:00Busy killing bin Laden? Busy sleeping on it, it s...Busy killing bin Laden? Busy sleeping on it, it sounds like. Yeah, he had to decide to do it or not, but busy <i>planning</i> it? Snort. The military handled their end extremely well, but the Obama Administration handling of the aftermath has been about as organized as a soup sandwich.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-31303252069160965692011-05-04T13:01:05.845-05:002011-05-04T13:01:05.845-05:00"We need to get up Pakistan's ass with a ..."<i>We need to get up Pakistan's ass with a pair of <b>tweezers</b></i>"??(!)<br /><br />Umm, no thanks. What a bizarre image. That must be a Minnesota custom, imported from the most in-bred back country portions of Scandinavia. Honestly, don't you think TSA-trained bomb-sniffing gerbils would work much better?Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-68093752629554828212011-05-04T12:56:06.344-05:002011-05-04T12:56:06.344-05:00blk, the same thing did happen in 2008 - and bush ...blk, the same thing did happen in 2008 - and bush and his oil cronies were to blame then, remember?<br /><br />Who cares what you supported markadelphia. Others on the left did not support it and we all know that the voices on this blog don't matter, the made up perception in ones head of the other sides position is what you always talk about so you can build up that strawman and then tear his down. You'd rather rant about the right then discuss leftist policies.<br /><br />Maybe people would be sold on Obama if some of you would actually write about his policies once in a while. This blog is nothing but talk about conservatives. Like I said before (and none of you disputed it), you've spent the last couple years putting any bad thing onto conservatives whether it was the economy, gas prices, falling dollar, deficits, etc. Now something good happens and you immediately start cheering about Obama and his policies. If you were consistent, you would talk about his policies and their results a little more often that when they headline the newscasts.rldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-79135089078110766742011-05-03T21:45:15.168-05:002011-05-03T21:45:15.168-05:00Sounds like Leon Panetta has claimed waterboarding...Sounds like Leon Panetta has claimed waterboarding is part of the reason OBL was killed.<br /><br />Well done Mr. President. I'm glad to see justice.<br /><br />But it turns out out you are still an idiot Marxy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-25371375742590342972011-05-03T20:06:34.960-05:002011-05-03T20:06:34.960-05:00Just what exactly does he have to do to earn your ...<i>Just what exactly does he have to do to earn your respect?</i><br /><br />How about him undoing <b>some</b> of the Bush executive excesses? How about keeping <b>some</b> of his campaign promises?<br /><br />Is that asking too much?<br /><br />And I am much more critical of your uncritical devotion than I am of the President himself. But you didn't catch that, did you?juris imprudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-50430184747361609152011-05-03T18:02:43.875-05:002011-05-03T18:02:43.875-05:00I'm afraid I don't get the link either. Wi...I'm afraid I don't get the link either. Wilson rallied us into WWI, Roosevelt in WWII, Truman dropped an atomic bomb in Japan, Kennedy nearly started WWIII, Johnson got us into Vietnam for real, Clinton got us into the Balkans. If anything the GOP's isolationist tendencies deserve scrutiny.<br /><br />Good post, Mark. It's been awhile. I'm glad to see that you still have a collection of red faced babies here throwing temper tantrums. There is nothing President Obama can do that will earn their respect.brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-47614224512007843222011-05-03T17:51:44.174-05:002011-05-03T17:51:44.174-05:00Yeah, not so much, dude. If you have been reading ...Yeah, not so much, dude. If you have been reading this blog since the beginning, it's actually been the reverse. I supported the effort in AfPak and always have. I also initially supported Iraq but quickly realized that was another Tonkin lie. Way to massively lie about water boarding as well. Good grief!Mark Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646564547711594030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-86875393940976822182011-05-03T17:06:58.672-05:002011-05-03T17:06:58.672-05:00iowahawk said it best:
http://iowahawk.typepad.co...iowahawk said it best:<br /><br />http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/05/american-pride-is-back.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-16096010144810817092011-05-03T16:37:21.877-05:002011-05-03T16:37:21.877-05:00Apologies to blk whose post somehow ended up in sp...Apologies to blk whose post somehow ended up in spam but is now posted and very accurate indeed! We don't live in an ep of 24, people...ahem, I mean children.Mark Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646564547711594030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-16315947181242115502011-05-03T16:32:01.046-05:002011-05-03T16:32:01.046-05:00Don, we have high gas prices because we of the glo...Don, we have high gas prices because we of the global market for oil being the way that it is...which is the subject of tomorrow's post. Can't wait to hear your comments on it!<br /><br /><i>Busy golfing and fundraising is more like it. </i> <br /><br />Wow. The cognitive dissonance here is staggering. The world you live in must be really fucking ignorant and awful, dude. <br /><br />Just what exactly does he have to do to earn your respect? I suspect there is nothing he can do but ask yourself this: had the mission failed, would it have been all his fault? Or would you have blamed the troops for the failure?Mark Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04646564547711594030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-63325369894934248932011-05-03T14:22:39.499-05:002011-05-03T14:22:39.499-05:00The more you whine about 8 year old power trips, t...The more you whine about 8 year old power trips, the more you act live a 5 year old - my dad can beat up your dad, my dad is the greatest! yada yada<br /><br />Big brave President indeed - ordering in the troops from the WH. Sheesh.juris imprudentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-46921636718201258142011-05-03T13:14:08.434-05:002011-05-03T13:14:08.434-05:00is it mature to call half the country racist, as y...is it mature to call half the country racist, as you do all the time markadelphia?swnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-87580437990233714652011-05-03T13:02:36.180-05:002011-05-03T13:02:36.180-05:00The excuse for using torture is always along the l...The excuse for using torture is always along the lines of an episode of 24: the terrorist planted a bomb that we have to find in the next 42 minutes or millions of people will die.<br /><br />The way bin Laden was tracked down -- a relatively obscure tip, followed by literally years of slow corroboration, detailed research, careful observation and patient waiting -- is really how interrogation and intelligence gathering really works.<br /><br />I've read several accounts of how the name of the courier was obtained. The shorter articles tend to conflate the extraction of the name with waterboarding. But the more detailed ones state that KSM's waterboarded stopped months before he gave up the courier's nom de guerre, and the name was obtained through standard interrogation techniques.<br /><br />Torture, according to many experts I've read, doesn't really work. In all likelihood, this particular piece of information probably wasn't on the tip of KSM's tongue when he was being waterboarded. He was most likely concentrating on breathing and how much he hated his interrogators. Drowning isn't particularly conducive to assisting the quick recall of picayune details.<br /><br />Also, you really have to question the efficacy of waterboarding. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html" rel="nofollow">According the NY Times</a> KSM was waterboarded 183 times. By the tenth or twentieth time it would be obvious to KSM that he would survive the torture, and they weren't going to kill him. That's not to say that it isn't torture -- it causes extreme stress on the body, and can kill.<br /><br />But we're constantly told that we do it to our own troops to train them to resist torture techniques, so it isn't "really" torture. However, it's still outlawed by international law and it's still torture by any reasonable definition. So what, really, is the point, other than to exact revenge on someone we think is bad?<br /><br />And as far as the high price of gas and and food being Obama's fault? I think the fact that <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53870.html" rel="nofollow">ExxonMobil's profits are up 69%</a> during the quarter when gas prices jumped tells the real story. And remember, the same thing happened during the summer of 2008 when Bush was still president.blknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-1086954407406854632011-05-03T12:50:25.922-05:002011-05-03T12:50:25.922-05:00You guys have been blaming everything that has bee...You guys have been blaming everything that has been going on these days on conservatives and gwb and now something good happens and you decide to remind everyone that Obama is doing a really great job (all of a sudden).<br /><br />You shove blame off of Obama and then credit him when something good happens. You think people aren't going to notice that?rldnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10123622.post-58266229719353999942011-05-03T12:19:33.594-05:002011-05-03T12:19:33.594-05:00Your adults are in charge now and we have sky high...Your adults are in charge now and we have sky high gas prices and grocery prices. You can stop calling people children - you put up a post a couple months ago saying we weren't broke simply because we can still borrow more money at really low rates. Obama wasn't the gutsy one here - the special forces team that got him were the gutsy ones.<br /><br />In the comment section yesterday you told us that anyone who says they know for sure how we got the intelligence is a complete liar. Now today you are saying that it was KSM duplicity (some time after being waterboarded) that led us to the name of the courier. After that, it was simply patience, dedication, and good intelligence work. <br /><br />Funny how you figured that out overnight by surfing the internet - and you're telling us YOUR assessment of the intelligence gathering is the only truthful version out there? Plus, can you assure us that no intelligence gathering method you have been complaining about for the last several years was used in this whole process?<br /><br />Nice picture. Busy golfing and fundraising is more like it.Donnoreply@blogger.com