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Thursday, September 06, 2012

Perplexed

I don't understand why the Right is up in arms over the disagreement over whether or not the word "God" should be included in the Democratic Party Platform. Or the disagreement over whether or not Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Huh?

It's a surprise that there are people in the Democratic party who believe God is a fairy tale for infant minded people? Heck, there are people in my comments section that think that.

It's a surprise that the Democratic party has Muslims in it that feel that the Palestinians have been treated unfairly by the Israelis? Perhaps here there is a hope that some undecided voters will be scared off by the Moose-lems!

Or is it a surprise that Democrats don't march in lockstep on an issue?

I guess my initial thought is that it's none of those things and the Right is simply doing what they always do...not taking responsibility for something (their own truly awful platform) and bloviating, "Well, their's is worser and stuff!!!!" in typical juvenile fashion.

I really don't get it. What's the dig supposed to be?

10 comments:

A. Noni Mouse said...

Here, let me 'splain. No, is too long. Let me sum up.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men…

—Declaration of Independence

Without God, there is no such thing as rights, only what society permits.

Without rights, government can (and has) become anything, up to and including a tyrannical beast which totally destroys its people.

In short, if you remove God, you remove the most basic purpose and limitations of the American government, which is to protect rights, even from itself.

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
—George Washington, Farewell Address

As for Jerusalem and Israel:

First, a sovereign nation has a right to designate it's own capital. Refusing to recognize Israel's self-designated capital city is tantamount to an attack on Israel's sovereignty.

Second, Israel is our only friend and ally in the Middle-East. Siding with our active enemies against our own ally is just plain despicable. (With friends like this, who needs enemies?)

Third:

“Cursed be those who curse you,
And blessed be those who bless you.”

— Genesis 27:29c

Mark Ward said...

Where is the word "God" in either of your quotes?

Who are the active enemies of which you speak?

A. Noni Mouse said...

1) "Creator", "religion"

2) Really?!? Duh!

Mark Ward said...

1. The words "creator" and "religion" are not the word "God." The objection was over the word God. Is the word God in the Constitution?

2. I think you are going to have to spell out who exactly our enemies are, based on your statements above. The Palestinians? Iran? All Muslims?

-just dave said...

Play dumb much?

A. Noni Mouse said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJX1REQB12o

Mark Ward said...

So, the word "creator" is just as good as the word, "God?" That's theologically non-specific so I guess I'm wondering why you don't have a problem with that.

Both of you complained about the word "God" not being in the DNC platform. The word "God" is not in the US Constitution which means....what was it again?

Without God, there is no such thing as rights, only what society permits.

Without rights, government can (and has) become anything, up to and including a tyrannical beast which totally destroys its people.

In short, if you remove God, you remove the most basic purpose and limitations of the American government, which is to protect rights, even from itself.


Are you suggesting that the US Constitution can now be characterized like this?

And your line from above is from the Declaration of Independence and it says "Creator,' not God (although it is used in the first paragraph as "Nature's God") So, again, why are you guys upset about the DNC platform?

I'm still waiting on the "active enemies" thing as well...(although I think you have realized what you have stepped in so if you want to retract, please feel free to do so...)

A. Noni Mouse said...

Is see Marxy is in Standard Response #12 mode tonight.

You want me to waste more of my precious time on you? No.

rld said...

When members of the gop don't agree on something, that means they're divided. When democrat delegates don't agree on something, that just means they don't march in lockstep, which is all of a sudden a good thing when they do it.

You're obvious Markadelphia.

downtown said...

Looks like a certain rodent is trying to wriggle its way out of a getting thumped by Mark again. Excuses, excuses....

Yes, buttercup, I still read your blog. Everyday. So do all the people down at my office and they love watching you beat up the righties. I'd feel bad except the morons ask for it. They demand it with their continued tactics of dickish denial.