the gun rights folks don't even want to have that discussion as they hit over boil in about a second and begin to descend into paranoid rants about the 2nd amendment. What are they really afraid of?
the apoplectic chagrin of the gun rights folks
The response from the Right?
just how fucked up the Right is
The Right has also indicated
the Right remains steadfast
the thinking on the Right
the Right didn't learn anything
the right wing bubble
And that's just on the current front page.
How can you respond to such irony? Like this:
How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye. — Luke 6:42
Very selective cutting and pasting there, nmn. I think you left out the "ideas" part of those sentences. Of course, I know why you did...there are none from the Right, especially new ones. That's why you drag the conversation down to people. You can't argue the merits of an idea proposed by the left because you're 12 year old pissed that they thought of it and you didn't. So you call them stupid and fat.
This is true on nearly every idea...health care, immigration, climate change, energy, defense, education...where are your ideas for progress in each of these areas? I have many and you have...a list of Standard responses...
Actually, it's not NO SPENDING FOREVER AND EVER AMEN. If you lament the lost days of American innovation (the space program etc), that was all US government spending.
I don't lament the end of NASA's glory days. Why don't you ever pay fucking attention to what I say if you are going to accuse me of saying shit?
This country had plenty of growth and innovation without the fucking progressivist disease. Progressivism is the second worst thing in this country's history - right behind slavery.
And my explanation? I bet you can't even paraphrase what that explanation was. It didn't register with you and you have no idea or recollection what it was. You comment upon its reality is wholly made up from thin air.
I'd say 65 trillion dollars in private wealth, our 16 Trillion dollar economy and our armed forces being bigger than the next 20 country countries combined (as well as the most powerful this world has ever seen) is a pretty good start. But, please, feel free to pretend that isn't the case.
Especially post WW11 to today when the disease has ran rampant!!
Actually progressivism was in retreat for much of the time post WWII, or at best fighting to conserve the earlier progressive legacy. Ike wasn't a progressive, was he? Stevenson was.
The U.S. became the dominant power because we helped destroy a large chunk of the rest of the world's industrial base.
Did anyone say that's not the case? So what is this "reality" that GD's explanation was "devoid" of? "It's really, really big" doesn't change basic principles. (You know… those "idea" thingies!)
Come to think of it, that is your answer to my question in a nutshell. You define what "reality" is. Not an examination via evidence. In fact, you frequently flat out refuse to back up your claims with evidence.
Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again it keeps coming down to the exact same "standard" that rules your thinking:
- Truth? Mark defines what truth is.
- Bias? Mark defines it.
- Word meanings? Mark again.
- The Bible? Mark again. ("Parts are wrong", based solely on Mark's judgement, and without even a standard way of determining what those parts are.)
- "Chest thumping"? Mark determines that, even when it's obviously not true, as can be spotted when Mr. Heston's jacket, shirt, and tie, plus the background all change in the middle what is supposedly a single speech!
- Logic? Mark is superior to that. If Mark uses a fallacy (unsound, erroneous, misleading, deceptive, FALSE) it's automatically valid simply because Mark used it.
- Previous pronouncements by Mark? Mark still wins even when contradicting Mark.
- What someone else said in a comment? Mark is always right about what that person said, even when that person says otherwise.
- Questions asking you to clarify what you meant or requests to back up your assertions are ignored, or frequently given a response that boils down to "because I said so."
Face it, Mark. You are your own god. You constantly and consistently act in a manner best described like this:
‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ — Isaiah 14:13–14
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Most High would have a problem with that.
More delicious irony.
ReplyDeleteKevin and his merry band of commenters
the gun rights folks don't even want to have that discussion as they hit over boil in about a second and begin to descend into paranoid rants about the 2nd amendment. What are they really afraid of?
the apoplectic chagrin of the gun rights folks
The response from the Right?
just how fucked up the Right is
The Right has also indicated
the Right remains steadfast
the thinking on the Right
the Right didn't learn anything
the right wing bubble
And that's just on the current front page.
How can you respond to such irony? Like this:
How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye.
— Luke 6:42
Very selective cutting and pasting there, nmn. I think you left out the "ideas" part of those sentences. Of course, I know why you did...there are none from the Right, especially new ones. That's why you drag the conversation down to people. You can't argue the merits of an idea proposed by the left because you're 12 year old pissed that they thought of it and you didn't. So you call them stupid and fat.
ReplyDeleteThis is true on nearly every idea...health care, immigration, climate change, energy, defense, education...where are your ideas for progress in each of these areas? I have many and you have...a list of Standard responses...
I think you left out the "ideas" part of those sentences.
ReplyDeleteChecked the mirror lately?
SPEND, spend, Spend, s p e n d, spEND
ReplyDeleteThat is your idea of innovation in govt, isn't it?
Actually, it's not NO SPENDING FOREVER AND EVER AMEN. If you lament the lost days of American innovation (the space program etc), that was all US government spending.
ReplyDeleteI don't lament the end of NASA's glory days. Why don't you ever pay fucking attention to what I say if you are going to accuse me of saying shit?
ReplyDeleteThis country had plenty of growth and innovation without the fucking progressivist disease. Progressivism is the second worst thing in this country's history - right behind slavery.
If it's so bad, how did we become such a world superpower then, juris? Especially post WW11 to today when the disease has ran rampant!!
ReplyDeleteExplained multiple times by multiple people.
ReplyDeleteAnd yet not sufficiently as we still are the mammoth superpower in the world, despite your continued insistence..."Any day now..."
ReplyDeleteStill explained to you, protests of lack of intelligence notwithstanding.
ReplyDeleteWell, GD, your explanation was devoid of reality in many, many ways. Therefore, not valid.
ReplyDeleteAnd "reality" is defined by…?
ReplyDelete"Multiple people"
ReplyDelete"Multiple times"
And my explanation? I bet you can't even paraphrase what that explanation was. It didn't register with you and you have no idea or recollection what it was. You comment upon its reality is wholly made up from thin air.
And "reality" is defined by…?
ReplyDeleteI'd say 65 trillion dollars in private wealth, our 16 Trillion dollar economy and our armed forces being bigger than the next 20 country countries combined (as well as the most powerful this world has ever seen) is a pretty good start. But, please, feel free to pretend that isn't the case.
Especially post WW11 to today when the disease has ran rampant!!
ReplyDeleteActually progressivism was in retreat for much of the time post WWII, or at best fighting to conserve the earlier progressive legacy. Ike wasn't a progressive, was he? Stevenson was.
The U.S. became the dominant power because we helped destroy a large chunk of the rest of the world's industrial base.
I'd say…
ReplyDeleteDid anyone say that's not the case? So what is this "reality" that GD's explanation was "devoid" of? "It's really, really big" doesn't change basic principles. (You know… those "idea" thingies!)
I'd say…
ReplyDeleteCome to think of it, that is your answer to my question in a nutshell. You define what "reality" is. Not an examination via evidence. In fact, you frequently flat out refuse to back up your claims with evidence.
Over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again it keeps coming down to the exact same "standard" that rules your thinking:
- Truth? Mark defines what truth is.
- Bias? Mark defines it.
- Word meanings? Mark again.
- The Bible? Mark again. ("Parts are wrong", based solely on Mark's judgement, and without even a standard way of determining what those parts are.)
- "Chest thumping"? Mark determines that, even when it's obviously not true, as can be spotted when Mr. Heston's jacket, shirt, and tie, plus the background all change in the middle what is supposedly a single speech!
- Logic? Mark is superior to that. If Mark uses a fallacy (unsound, erroneous, misleading, deceptive, FALSE) it's automatically valid simply because Mark used it.
- Previous pronouncements by Mark? Mark still wins even when contradicting Mark.
- What someone else said in a comment? Mark is always right about what that person said, even when that person says otherwise.
- Questions asking you to clarify what you meant or requests to back up your assertions are ignored, or frequently given a response that boils down to "because I said so."
Face it, Mark. You are your own god. You constantly and consistently act in a manner best described like this:
‘I will ascend to heaven;
above the stars of God
I will set my throne on high;
I will sit on the mount of assembly
in the far reaches of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
— Isaiah 14:13–14
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the Most High would have a problem with that.