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Sunday, May 24, 2009

Obama is the New....Bush?

The cartoon below got a few emails my way and a comment from juris regarding where I stand on Obama's recent 180s on some issues that fall under the "Conflict with Hirabis" column. My guy seems to be getting hit pretty hard from all sides these days and that probably means he's doing the right thing. Although that does not mean that I agree with him on all of these policies.

A recent off the record meeting at the White House (which ended up being on the record:)) saw several human rights groups and left wingers taking President Obama to the mat on four key issues. Here is where I stand on all of them.

Non release of the Photos: In many ways I can see both sides to this. On the one hand we need to see if there were any crimes broken and if anyone should be prosecuted. We also need to own up, as country, and apologize for this disgusting and sadistic behavior. But the pictures, should they ever be released, will put our armed forces in harm's way and perhaps add more names to the rolls of Al Qaeda recruiters. It's a tough call but let's remember that President Obama didn't create this mess...he's just trying to clean it up as best he can. So, I think that it is a good idea not to release the pictures once you look at the overall strategy of denying hirabis any fuel for their psychotic fire.

Continue Military Tribunals: If the policy is streamline to be more effective and give suspects basic rights that prisoners of war had in previous conflicts, I might be for the continued use of tribunals. As of right now, though, I am not. Regardless of how bad these guys are, they should be treated with all the liberty and rights of the Geneva convention and not put up in Spanish Inquisition like fashion with a guilty until proven innocent attitude. We are still toggling back and forth between "is this a war" or "is this criminal activity that requires police work." I say the latter is a more effective strategy (unless there is a whole country involved like Pakistan) and this has been fully proved to be very effective as was shown with the recent break up of a terrorist cell in New York.

Secret Prisons: Nope. Completely against the president on this one. I find it to be highly hypocritical of him to continue to support this when he says we have to close Gitmo. These prisons will be used as recruitment tools and are just as damaging to us as the enhanced interrogation techniques. The fact that he is going along with this makes me wonder how much Dick Cheney is still dictating our national policy which, of course, proves my point that it is still relevant to talk about conservatives:)

No Prosecution of Bushies: Not really with him on this one as well. I understand that if we go after people that tortured or the Bush Administration officials (see: all of them) that ordered it, it could turn really ugly...fast. But these people broke the law. If we send Michael Vick to jail for two years for dog fighting and we let people that break the law go free, what does that say about us as a country? I realize we need to move on but we still must lead by example and we are not doing that here.

Warrantless Wiretaps: Again, this is wrong no matter who does it. Now, I haven't looked into this much but you don't need a warrant for the first 15 days and can get one after the fact as I understand it. That much is legal. The Bush Administration went farther than this and if President Obama continues this same program then he is wrong as well. On the other hand, my nose smells something rotten here (see: conservative propaganda) and I'd like to examine both policies side by side to see if there are any differences.

So, as you can see, I do think President Obama is making some mistakes and I don't agree with him on a couple of these issues. It is nice, however, to see that he is capable of changing his mind and pursuing what he thinks is the better idea than perhaps some of his own...quite a refreshing change from the last administration. It shouldn't come to the surprise of anyone that I think this way as I said it would be like this all along. I can admit that President Obama isn't perfect...he will make mistakes...I (and he) can admit when he is wrong and I don't blindly follow him and bury my head in the sand like an ostrich.

That's how the other side operates. And man is that tough for them to understand. They just can't seem to understand that, even though I disagree with him on some issues, that I still think he is a great guy and the best person we have had in this job for years...decades even. How can I possibly support someone who is flawed? All leaders in the GOP are perfect, damnit!, and never change their minds...EVER! They are always right and it's always someone else's fault. How can Mark have this attitude?

Well, it's called reflection.

2 comments:

juris imprudent said...

Reflection, deflection, what's the diff, right?

The diff my dear M is that when Bush did this stuff you were a screeching maniac (and ignoring that more than a few people 'of the right' were concerned though not as hyperbolically). When "your guy" follows essentially the same course, well, it all gets a very even-handed response. Yes, you may disagree with Obama, but you can understand why he's doing it, etc. - none of the "HE'S FUCKING THE COUNTRY AND DESTROYING OUR PLACE IN THE WORLD COMMUNITY". Do you think everyone in the world is as generous in their interpretation as you are in yours?

Ponder that.

And pissing off lots of people is not a sure indicator you are doing something right - otherwise Bush must have done a lot right in his 8 years.

Mark Ward said...

No, he didn't. There is a difference. Consider that totality of the policies that Bush pursued and compare them to the totality of what Obama has pursued thus far. I guarantee that I WILL become a screeching maniac if Obama decides to pursue ALL of the policies that Bush pursued.

Obama gets an even handed response because he is an even handed guy. He is still planning on closing Gitmo, wants to engage in direct talks with countries like Iran and Venezuella, refuses to torture, and says that our security and our values are not mutually exclusive.

Is he perfect? No, and I never said he was. He is pursuing policies that I don't agree with but it is not (yet) at the 400 pound gorilla level that is was with Bush-Cheney.