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Wednesday, March 24, 2010

JLAQ!

They won because they held Congress and the presidency, and therein lies the lesson: We need to defeat these bastards. We need to wipe them out.

--Rush Limbaugh, co head of the GOP


Of course, he was talking about defeating them in the coming election but I'm wondering what the Cult would say if these same words came from Ibrahim Hooper. And in Arabic.

I think we know what the Cult would say and that's why, in addition to being JLAQ, they are the finest example of hypocrisy in history. :)

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Joe Biden said this was "a big fuckin deal", and I'm inclined to believe the fool. THAT'S why we will attempt to defeat the bastards as quickly as possible.

It's really fuckin sad that we have to protect you from your freedom hating self.

Did you watch Beck yesterday? He was on fuckin fire baby!

Ed "What the" Heckman said...

You recognize that there's a difference, then turn around and call it "just like".

Only in Marxaphasia land does "different" mean the same thing as "equals".

What's the meaning of "verbatim" again?

Once again, it's time to remind you that The Law of Non-Contradiction is BASIC LOGIC which is even understood by any 5 year old. ("Is not! Is too! Is not! Is too!")

This guy put it very well:

"The law of contradiction means that two antithetical propositions cannot both be true at the same time and in the same sense. X cannot be non-X. A thing cannot be and not be simultaneously. And nothing that is true can be self-contradictory or inconsistent with any other truth.

All logic depends on this simple principle. Rational thought and meaningful discourse demand it. To deny it is to deny all truth in one fell swoop.
"

But then again, you continually using non-logic (i.e., irrationality) even after years of being pointed to what is and is not logic. I guess it's true that you can lead a Marxy to logic, but you cannot make him think.

blk said...

Limbaugh's attitude typifies what's wrong with the right today. They're not interested in making things work, or coming to any reasonable compromises on any issue. They simply want to stall and stymie any Democratic initiatives to make them look weak and ineffective, in the hope that they can take control of Congress in the next election. Which would only encourage them to stall and stymie for another two years until Obama's term is over.

We can't afford that kind of obstructionism.

When the Republicans had the presidency and both houses of Congress locked up, they threw their weight around, ramming anything and everything through that they wanted. They used reconciliation many times (in particular, to ram through tax cuts for the wealthy). Under Tom DeLay the House had rules that disallowed any Democratic initiatives unless a majority of Republicans preapproved it. They also refused to speak to any lobbyists unless the firm hired Republican cronies (the infamous K Street Project).

I remember John Bolton saying that it was Bush's responsibility and duty to the people who voted for him to push through everything he promised in the campaign. Obama is simply carrying through on his promises. Along the way he's made compromises (no government plan, individual mandate, etc.). If Republicans had made an honest attempt to work with Democrats the bill would probably have been cheaper and better. But all guys like Jim DeMint and Rush Limbaugh can think about is Obama's Waterloo and wiping out the Democrats.

These guys don't really seem to care the actual function of government. They're only interested in beating the other guy. It's the same win-at-any-cost mentality that fostered the meltdown at big investment banks, various insider trading scams and Ponzi schemes like Madoff's.

And Mark, it's pointless to blabber about the cult. It's not a cult: it bears a much closer relationship to an organized criminal gang, like the Mafia. It uses the same tactics of intimidation and ham-fisted extortion and protection rackets. It even has a political prostitution ring at Fox News, where Glenn Beck and the other talking heads will spew any lie that Roger Ailes tells them to.

Mark Ward said...

Good points, blk. I disagree about the cult, however. Their leaders might be mafia like but the masses are cult like. When you work out and fall asleep listening to Dennis Praeger and Newt Gingrich, you are participating in mass hypnosis.

Anonymous said...

>When the Republicans had the presidency and both houses of Congress locked up, they threw their weight around, ramming anything and everything through that they wanted.

Yeah, boy, that darn GOP really threw their weight around on Social Security reform and pushed it through despite popular resistance. Oh wait, that more accurately describes the recent HCR, doesn't it..

>These guys don't really seem to care the actual function of government. They're only interested in beating the other guy.

I sort of agree with you on this, but you are in extra special fantasy dream land when you implicitly claim that Democrats are one iota different. An even marginally fair reading of recent history will tell you that when Democrats were out of power, they were primarily concerned with a. getting back into power and b. thwarting the Republicans. I know it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy to believe you are on the side of angels, but it just isn't true. Sorry.

>It bears a much closer relationship to an organized criminal gang, like the Mafia.

Wow. Just about as insightful as Mark's moronic cult meme. Nice and tidy generalizations are fun! Here's one: Mark, blk, and people like them base their ideologies not on what works, but what makes them feel morally righteous for advocating. In other words, they are narcissistic. As a result, their policies end up being nice sounding pablum, but generally fail to take into account things like incentives and moral hazard. The result is, unsurprisingly, policies that fail to perform as hoped, and often make things worse. Confronted with this failure however, they refuse to consider that their policy prescription might be flawed and seek to ramp up the power. This is otherwise known as escalation of failure, and generally regarded with the ridicule it deserves by people that trade in logic and/or skepticism.

Hrm.. I need a name for this wonderful overgeneralization I've created.. Fanboys? Followers? Children? Mark, I could use some help here. You are clearly good at this sort of thing.

pl said...

Nigel Coleman, chairman of the Danville Tea Party, said he re-posted the comment that originated on another conservative blog, including the [incorrect] address, Monday on his Facebook page. The posts were taken down after the mistake was discovered.

"We've never been associated with any violence or any vandalism," he said.


In one respect you are correct, M. What a douche guys like this are. They are going to post the addresses of elected officials who voted for the health care bill, but then they are going to try to wash their hands of any wrongdoing.

And speaking of douches:
Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said "it's an effort to kind of hijack the debate by coercive elements. I'm glad the Republican leadership colleagues denounce it. But they were very late to do that." [my emphasis]

Really, Barney? As compared to all of the times you've been so quick to jump to the aid of your colleagues across the aisle?

Can we just get rid of the whole lot of 'em?

Anonymous said...

That's priceless. Rush Limbaugh is JLAQ because he thinks his political opponents need to be "wiped out".

Of course, Harry Reid wasn't JLAQ when he called conservatives "The Great Sata..." no, wait, that's "evilmongers", my bad. So I guess it has to be the war metaphor that makes him JLAQ.

I sure am glad I got it clarified, and the hypocrisy pointed out, by the proprietor of "Notes From the Front".

juris imprudent said...

When you work out and fall asleep listening to Dennis Praeger and Newt Gingrich, you are participating in mass hypnosis.

How strange then that you should spend so much more time listening to them than anyone else I know. By FAR.

Anyway, I may stop reading over here. The quality has fallen way down, again. An idiot-meme of the progressives is the dominant theme and I am way more than bored with it. I guess keeping up to the Manzi level just isn't what you care to do M - more's the pity.

It is ironic that someone said that this 3000 page HCR is really rather like the PATRIOT Act - almost no one knows everything that is in it, least of all the people that VOTED for it.