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Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Conservative...terrorists?

Remember the cover of the New Yorker a couple of weeks back? The basic jist of that was a lampoon on conservative (see:white man shaking and a quakin' because he can't get his big fat dumb ass head around how much our America has changed) paranoia. In what has to be the most hilarious dichotomy in....the history of this country...conservatives think that Senator Obama is a "radical" who spends his time with "other radicals" like William Ayers (see: conservative douche bag fear mongering pundit machine really, really reaching for...something...hee hee) and is going to wield his Che Guevara ways,similar to Harry Potter's wand, and destroy all life in this country as we know it. I only have one thing to say to these imbecilic putzes:

PHYSICIAN, HEAL THYSELF.

Why don't we spend a few moments and take a look at domestic terrorism? Let's start with an oldie, but a goodie...abortion clinic related violence...

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed 7 people, including 3 doctors, 2 clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort

A fourth doctor, George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama on August 21, 1993, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery.

Attempted murder, assault, and threats

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers. The attempted murders were:

  • August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence.
  • June 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
  • December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the same-day shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
  • December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second-degree attempted murder and sentenced to 20 years.[11]
  • October 28, 1997: A physician whose name has not been revealed was shot in his home in Rochester, New York.
  • January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.
  • September 11, 2006 David McMenemy attempted a suicide bombing of a women's clinic in Davenport, Iowa after scouting targets throughout the Midwest. It was later revealed that the targeted clinic did not perform or make referrals for abortions.

Anthrax threats

The first letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting, and since then, there have been a total of 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.

  • November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare on December 3, 2003.
And where are we on the whole anthrax thing again? And who was targeted? Just saying...

Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs"). The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio. More recent incidents have included:

  • October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.
  • May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000.
  • October 1, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard.
  • June 11, 2001: A bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington on destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages
  • July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson.
  • December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year.
  • September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc.
  • April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device.
  • May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
  • December 6, 2007: Two unidentified persons set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Mentioned above is Eric Rudolph, the man responsible for the 1996 Olympic bombings. His reason?

Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Even though the conception and purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is to promote the values of global socialism, as perfectly expressed in the song Imagine by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these despicable ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27 was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand.

The John Lennon mention perfectly exemplifies the complete and utter fucking ignorance of people that think this way. Imagine (hee hee) the level of intellect that these people have that completely misinterprets one of the greatest songs of all time. I guess I would expect nothing less from this type of mindset. Less than zero maybe?

And then we have the Oklahoma City bombings by right wing nutters who were tired of the government as well as a whole host of grievances that sound suspiciously like a certain blog I know. This same blog recently posted a story recounting the "Threshold of Outrage" of 58 year old Jim Adkisson who, last Sunday, stormed into a Tennessee Church, angry at its liberalism and tolerance of homosexual members, killed two people and wounded seven others during a performance of a children's play. Naturally, he had a statement...he targeted the church because

"...of its liberal teachings and his belief that all liberals should be killed because they were ruining the country, and that he felt that the Democrats had tied his country's hands in the war on terror and they had ruined every institution in America with the aid of media outlets."

Hmm...sounds just like that guy I recently met at a Christmas Party who some of you said was an anomaly. Oh, and this is great. Inside Adkisson's house they found "'Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder' by radio talk show host Michael Savage, 'Let Freedom Ring' by talk show host Sean Hannity, and 'The O'Reilly Factor," by television talk show host Bill O'Reilly.'"

Gee, what a shock.

As I read through Kevin's post regarding the tragedy, I did see a few hints of condemnation but the jist of the post, as well as the comments, was this....DON'T PISS OFF WHITE PEOPLE. And, as BLK noted after he read the post.

Geez, he sounds like a bleeding heart liberal. The poor guy's threshold of outrage was reached. We can hardly blame him. Those damned liberals made him do it. It's society's fault.

What I find to be curious about all of this is I wonder if Kevin has seriously taken a look at the people he criticizes and the people he defends? How blinded can his dogmatic belief system be? If I were him, I would be less concerned about the left and more concerned about his own house, which quite clearly has more shit bags in it. As BLK so eloquently put it to me in a recent email regarding this topic...

Why is personal responsibility abdicated when conservatives commit crimes?

Indeed. This would include Ted Stevens and the Justice Department under President Bush....two topics that will be covered over the next few days.....

17 comments:

Rev. Donald Spitz said...

You seem to imply there is something wrong if a babykilling abortion mill is burned or bomb. What do you prefer, dead babies or a pile of bricks? Innocent unborn babies deserve to be protected just as born children deserve to be protected. You would have no problem protecting born children if they were about to be murdered.

SAY THIS PRAYER: Dear Jesus, I am a sinner and am headed to eternal hell because of my sins. I believe you died on the cross to take away my sins and to take me to heaven. Jesus, I ask you now to come into my heart and take away my sins and give me eternal life.

Mark Ward said...

Thanks for proving my point reverend.

Oh, and the only thing I need to concern myself with, regarding prayer, is the following.

Romans 10: 9-11

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."

The only thing I need to confess is that Christ is my savior. That's it. One does not need to confess sins in order to be saved. This chapter makes it very clear.

Anonymous said...

Let me get this straight, rev, because I just checked out your web site. You defend a child's right to live and yet you also support a convicted and executed murderer like Paul Hill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Jennings_Hill

Dave, SW, Last, PL, Kevin, Juris, RLD-please show all of us the equivalent of this on the left. Mark is right. Your side is far more prone to use violence.

Anonymous said...

A profound divide. Eliz, I've read your posts. Why should anyone explain anything to you when you haven't explained anything on here ever?

Anonymous said...

This is why the right really has to rethink its "no holds barred" vision of the war on terror.

Since the 60s, domestic right-wing groups are far more likely to use terrorist tactics than left-wing groups. That means that future administrations would be well within the precedents that Bush has set if they started treating abortion clinic bombers, doctor assassins and their supporters the same way Bush treats Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.

Which means that emails and phone calls of people who voice support for anti-abortion terrorists could be monitored without court approval.

The potential for abuse is far too great to give law enforcement this kind of naked power. Abandoning our basic principles will eventually lead to a police state in which no one is safe from government intrusion.

If you actually listen to some of the things Bin Laden is saying, he talks much like American right-wing Christians. He's even said that he has to attack us is because we have gay marriage. The result of too much freedom, in his eyes. This is why democracy is wrong; it lets people do what they want.

Evil is as evil does. Evil done in the name of a good cause is still evil. It must be punished as harshly as evil done out of greed. Law enforcement has to work just as hard to stop abortion clinic bombers as bin Laden wannabes. Because invariably innocent bystanders are slaughtered.

Anonymous said...

You ‘al folks ‘r nuttier than squirrel droppings.

Anonymous said...

Well said, blk. I completely agree.

Don, are you and Rev Spitz one and the same? I assume not since you have different IDs.

I don't really see what Elizabeth has to explain. Maybe she doesn't have the time to write lengthy answers to many of the questions posed her-some of which do require a longer response.

It will be interesting to see if Rev Spitz responds. His site is disgusting and a complete abhorrence of Jesus Christ.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, Sara. Rev Spitz, I am pro life and am completely disgusted by your heroification of a scumbag like Paul Hill. I am also a deeply devout Christian and you are, in no way whatsoever, a follower of Christ.

You are, in fact, a follower of someone else though and I will pray for YOU!

Anonymous said...

I could explain it all but it would take up more than 1 line. Wouldn't want to break the pattern here.

Anonymous said...

As with conservatives across the country these days, the ones that post here seem to be like a broken record, sticking to the same old tired crap.

Hey! That was only one line.

Oh, but that wasn't.

Maybe I can be acceptable now in hard headed land.

Anonymous said...

So that's the excuse sara - she just doesn't have enough time. or is it that she doesn't know very much about any given issue and she relies on markadelphia giving half the story to stay informed. I think what Don said is that it really doesn't matter what anyone types in response to anyone here. Your minds are already made up.

Steve

Mark Ward said...

Steve, my mind is ready to changed at any time. Unfortunately, the actions and consequences of most (not all) conservatives have proven otherwise.

And I can't ignore these simple truths..the one being discussed here is that the acts of domestic terrorism of the last 15 years or so have stemmed from the right side of the spectrum, not the left. I laid out a list and it's up to you to decided whether or not you want to change YOUR mind.

Anonymous said...

Curious though markadelphia - by discussing this truth are you attempting to bring people together?

Anonymous said...

And where are we on the whole anthrax thing again? And who was targeted? Just saying...

There's breaking news on this story. Apparently the guy responsible for this just committed suicide. Case closed.

How convenient that it happened while the Bush Justice Department was still in charge.

Mark Ward said...

BLK, saw that too. The whole thing smells of cover up. The FBI says they are going to release details on this suspect and the "others" involved.

We'll see...

RLD, my main point in bringing this up is try to get some on the right to stop being afraid of something that isn't there-left wing radicals committing terrorist acts in this country. The larger problem with domestic terrorism is from the right, not the left.

Anonymous said...

The larger problem with domestic terrorism is from the right, not the left.

No the larger problem is people like you and Bush who attempt to pose whatever problem there is as nothing but the fault of the other guys.

Mark Ward said...

As I have said many times, the left has plenty of blame regarding our current problems as a nation. It's just not the same list of items that you would agree with.

Specifically on the subject of domestic terrorism, they are more likely to come from the right as opposed to the left.