You're really reaching, Ed. I know you don't like Mark but it's clearly an image to remember sacrifice. You guys are really whirring off the rails these days. How embarrassing.
There was a reason for his sacrifice, was there not? Such a valuable sacrifice is an unthinkable evil unless what is to be gained is worth far more than the sacrifice.
Where does this picture highlight (or even hint at) the reason his sacrifice was worthwhile?
Had he and many others not made it, ED, the world would be a very different place. The sad thing about all of this is how people who perceive the world the way you do have hijacked this sacrifice. Take a look at the film Saving Private Ryan. Or either series Band of Brothers or The Pacific. Both of these were made by "Hollywood liberals." And yet they illustrate perfectly exactly what was at stake and why the sacrifice was made. I understand this completely and your questions are unnecessarily condescending. No worries, though, I know that's your Cult programming.
Somehow, though, in your...ahem...induced state, you have translated this truly noble sacrifice to mean that anyone who was against Vietnam or Iraq II is an enemy of the state who hates the troops. American never EVER has anything to apologize for and to say otherwise is treason. You can't even conceive of the inherent fact that men like Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower...all men who truly understood sacrifice....would consider your "patriotism" pure psychosis. They rallied against people like you, Ed, and when people like me lament America Lost, it is for this very reason.
It sickens me that you equate what we fought for...what my grandfather fought for..in WWII to the insanity that started in Vietnam and continued with the likes of Dick Cheney to today. Or the coup in Iran by our government and the same people that are now responsible for completely fucking over the lives of the inhabitants of the Gulf of Mexico. The world view of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh (see: exactly yours) should be placed under in-patient care at Bellevue.
Ed, I'm going to be very blunt here: you are on the WRONG side. Unfuck yourself and pull your head out of your ass.
Oooh, Look who's all sensitive that I dared to ask if he understood the sacrifice… I hoped you would understand it, so it was essentially a rhetorical question.
As for the rest, your constant demonization (based almost ENTIRELY on strawman distortions) of everyone who disagrees with you is apparently screwing with your stability. Are you going to snap soon and start shooting anyone who even looks like a conservative?
Do the parents of your students know you talk this way?
Yet for all that text, you didn't answer my second question:
"Where does this picture highlight (or even hint at) the reason his sacrifice was worthwhile?"
I'm just saying that your chosen picture seems to focus solely on the cost of D-Day, to the exclusion of all else, including the courage, determination, skill, and ultimately, the success of these men in eventually ridding the world of one of its great evils.
Ed, they aren't distortions. They are based on what you have written for the last couple of years. You are a jingoistic, chest thumper whose support of dangerous policies get people killed. And, ironically, create governments like the ones you claim to loathe.
As to the parents of my students, this would be why I post anonymously and don't talk about my blog in class. My job isn't to give my opinion in class..it's to listen to their opinion, encourage critical thinking, and make sure that their learning is aligned with the standards of the state.
As to the picture, I think that people in this country forget about the very real sacrifice that soldiers make every day. This would be true of any conflict regardless of whether you agree politically with it. With D Day, it's overwhelming to think that so many men went on that beach knowing they would die just as seen in the photo but they did it anyway because freedom in the world was at stake. I'm not certain I would have that kind of courage.
I asked my grandfather often how he did it. He would always answer the same way.
"We had to."
That's what the photo means to me and the reason why I made the comment above to you is not because I was sensitive. It was because you equate a conflict like WWII to Vietnam and Iraq which is pure insanity. And why those conflicts were so fucked up.
As long as I am around, you can look at me as Senator Harry Truman (tasked by FDR)...to be up the ass of war profiteers and their hyper nationalist supporters. Simply put, I will not stand for their (your) lies and the actions that result from them.
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Does anyone else find it fascinating that the photo Mark chose to commemorate D-Day was one of a dead American soldier?
You're really reaching, Ed. I know you don't like Mark but it's clearly an image to remember sacrifice. You guys are really whirring off the rails these days. How embarrassing.
Indeed, Brendan.
There was a reason for his sacrifice, was there not? Such a valuable sacrifice is an unthinkable evil unless what is to be gained is worth far more than the sacrifice.
Where does this picture highlight (or even hint at) the reason his sacrifice was worthwhile?
Had he and many others not made it, ED, the world would be a very different place. The sad thing about all of this is how people who perceive the world the way you do have hijacked this sacrifice. Take a look at the film Saving Private Ryan. Or either series Band of Brothers or The Pacific. Both of these were made by "Hollywood liberals." And yet they illustrate perfectly exactly what was at stake and why the sacrifice was made. I understand this completely and your questions are unnecessarily condescending. No worries, though, I know that's your Cult programming.
Somehow, though, in your...ahem...induced state, you have translated this truly noble sacrifice to mean that anyone who was against Vietnam or Iraq II is an enemy of the state who hates the troops. American never EVER has anything to apologize for and to say otherwise is treason. You can't even conceive of the inherent fact that men like Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower...all men who truly understood sacrifice....would consider your "patriotism" pure psychosis. They rallied against people like you, Ed, and when people like me lament America Lost, it is for this very reason.
It sickens me that you equate what we fought for...what my grandfather fought for..in WWII to the insanity that started in Vietnam and continued with the likes of Dick Cheney to today. Or the coup in Iran by our government and the same people that are now responsible for completely fucking over the lives of the inhabitants of the Gulf of Mexico. The world view of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh (see: exactly yours) should be placed under in-patient care at Bellevue.
Ed, I'm going to be very blunt here: you are on the WRONG side. Unfuck yourself and pull your head out of your ass.
Oooh, Look who's all sensitive that I dared to ask if he understood the sacrifice… I hoped you would understand it, so it was essentially a rhetorical question.
As for the rest, your constant demonization (based almost ENTIRELY on strawman distortions) of everyone who disagrees with you is apparently screwing with your stability. Are you going to snap soon and start shooting anyone who even looks like a conservative?
Do the parents of your students know you talk this way?
Yet for all that text, you didn't answer my second question:
"Where does this picture highlight (or even hint at) the reason his sacrifice was worthwhile?"
I'm just saying that your chosen picture seems to focus solely on the cost of D-Day, to the exclusion of all else, including the courage, determination, skill, and ultimately, the success of these men in eventually ridding the world of one of its great evils.
Ed, they aren't distortions. They are based on what you have written for the last couple of years. You are a jingoistic, chest thumper whose support of dangerous policies get people killed. And, ironically, create governments like the ones you claim to loathe.
As to the parents of my students, this would be why I post anonymously and don't talk about my blog in class. My job isn't to give my opinion in class..it's to listen to their opinion, encourage critical thinking, and make sure that their learning is aligned with the standards of the state.
As to the picture, I think that people in this country forget about the very real sacrifice that soldiers make every day. This would be true of any conflict regardless of whether you agree politically with it. With D Day, it's overwhelming to think that so many men went on that beach knowing they would die just as seen in the photo but they did it anyway because freedom in the world was at stake. I'm not certain I would have that kind of courage.
I asked my grandfather often how he did it. He would always answer the same way.
"We had to."
That's what the photo means to me and the reason why I made the comment above to you is not because I was sensitive. It was because you equate a conflict like WWII to Vietnam and Iraq which is pure insanity. And why those conflicts were so fucked up.
As long as I am around, you can look at me as Senator Harry Truman (tasked by FDR)...to be up the ass of war profiteers and their hyper nationalist supporters. Simply put, I will not stand for their (your) lies and the actions that result from them.
Wow, what a huge steaming pile.
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