Take a look at this article from the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (in order to read it you must give them your email...sorry)
But a crowd of more than 500 -- far larger than the ones most candidates attract on the Iowa campaign circuit -- sat in rapt attention as Bachmann told the story of how she confessed her sins and found Christ as a teenager in Minnesota. She received a standing ovation.
"It was just a wonderful witness," said First Assembly of God church member Mark Linebach, who described himself as spellbound by the telegenic congresswoman. "She is 100 percent comfortable in the setting of a church."
My first thought upon reading this was that I think it's about time we reviewed the tax exempt status of some of these churches. There was nothing religious about this visit at all. It was purely political.
My second thought was complete disbelief at how so many people don't grasp the simple fact of how hauntingly close this is to Muslim extremism.
"Michele wants Iowans to see her faith as a major part of her decisionmaking process," said Steve Deace, a Christian broadcaster who has had her on his radio show in central Iowa. "It's wise of her to do that."
I'm a Christian but I have no problem voting for an atheist for president. My faith in Jesus doesn't extend to civil religion and that is exactly the cancer that has taken over a large part of our culture. Somehow both of them have become mixed up in this disgusting stew that bears no resemblance whatsoever to our democracy nor Christianity.
When I talk about True Believers, these are the people of which I speak. These are the "voices inside my head." There is no doubt in my mind that these people want a fascist culture in which there is no compromise and no room for individual thought and freedom. They may say that they are for less government but that is a complete lie. In fact, the opposite is true. They want everyone marching in lock step in a newly founded theocracy.
What we are seeing with Ms. Bachmann right now could be the start of that. I doubt she will get very far in a national election but the simple fact that she has people following her should give us all pause. We don't want people like her in leadership in this country.
History has shown us it always leads to the same place.
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My first thought upon reading this was that I think it's about time we reviewed the tax exempt status of some of these churches.
Talk about your hyper-partisanship! Where's your complaints about incidents like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/eighteen/ekeyinfo/erelrev.htm
http://www.academicamerican.com/colonial/topics/religion.html
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016909.html
What's that phrase you use? "It's not _____ when we do it."
Once again, M is showing that if it weren't for double-standards, he'd have no standards at all.
Oh, and for the record, Christian churches played a major role in making the American Revolution a success.
http://www.richmondhillhistory.org/clergy.html
No, anon, that would extend to ALL churches...even Dr. King's church. If political business is going on at a church on a regular basis, they should be taxed. I don't care what side of the aisle they fall on.
I'm well aware of the role that churches played in the founding of our country. That was the 18th century. It's 2011 now and the mixing of religion (monotheistic or otherwise) with civil religion is very, very dangerous. That's what hirabis do. We should not be like that.
God Damn America!
The US of KKK A!
The United States' chickens have come home to roost!
My first thought upon reading this was that I think it's about time we reviewed the tax exempt status of some of these churches.
Markadelphia I'd like to introduce you to Nikto...
Does [Cain] really believe that there could ever be enough Muslims in this country to totally overwhelm the rest of us, enough to amend the Constitution and establish Sharia law
So fear of Muslim theocracy is crazy talk, but fear of fundie Christian politics is good, common sense?
civil religion
Should I even ask?
It's not fear when they do it.
I just realized I messed up the placement of my links. Here's the corrected version of that first post:
My first thought upon reading this was that I think it's about time we reviewed the tax exempt status of some of these churches.
Talk about your hyper-partisanship! Where's your complaints about incidents like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0x_TpDris
What's that phrase you use? "It's not _____ when we do it."
Once again, M is showing that if it weren't for double-standards, he'd have no standards at all.
Oh, and for the record, Christian churches played a major role in making the American Revolution a success.
http://www.richmondhillhistory.org/clergy.html
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/tserve/eighteen/ekeyinfo/erelrev.htm
http://www.academicamerican.com/colonial/topics/religion.html
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/016909.html
No, anon, that would extend to ALL churches...even Dr. King's church.
And yet you only start complaining when conservatives do it.
That was the 18th century. It's 2011 now and the mixing of religion (monotheistic or otherwise) with civil religion is very, very dangerous.
Why? What has changed?
That's what hirabis do.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Should I even ask?
The Pledge of Allegiance is an example of civil religion.
And yet you only start complaining when conservatives do it.
I complain when both do it but I don't see the propensity for violence that I see with the left these days that I do with the right.
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Recall that jihad is a very inappropriate term to use in classifying Mulsim extremism. A jihad is more of a quest in self actualization. So when we say jihadist, it really makes no sense. We may as well be calling all Muslims extremists. Perhaps that's what you want:)
Hirabi comes from the word "hirabah" which means unlawful warfare or piracy. This is more accurate way of describing criminals which is what groups like Al Qaeda actually are.
don't see the propensity for violence that I see with the left these days that I do with the right.
Sticking your head in the sand does not make that statement any more true.
Hirabi comes from the word "hirabah" which means unlawful warfare or piracy. This is more accurate way of describing criminals which is what groups like Al Qaeda actually are.
But they're doing exactly the kinds of things Mohammad himself did, just with better technology. That makes it lawful. Please don't make me pull out the quotes from the Q'ran yet again! We've been over this ground before. (see my first statement of this comment.)
As for the question you've ignored: Why? What has changed?
The Pledge of Allegiance is an example of civil religion.
Perhaps once the "under God" part was added. ;-)
But I fail to comprehend how a statement affirming my commitment to our country and its ideals constitutes an act of devotion to a deity (let alone a specific program of worship).
I don't see the propensity for violence that I see with the left these days that I do with the right
Is an ocular impairment really a valid excuse?
Of course it is.
"Col. Hogen! I see nothing!"
Okay, I think I get it now...
It has nothing to do with religion. Muslim, Christian, whatever, it doesn't matter. And it's not about using your religious views as a political prop, it can't be, otherwise you would have objected when Obama or Pelosi did it, right?
But the idea of an elected official who might actually hesitate to throw his personal ethics in the shitter for the sake of political expediency... that horrifies you and fills you with dread, and must be stamped out at all costs.
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