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Monday, January 28, 2008

American Monarchy

A while back I was a at get together for Keith Ellison, esteemed congressmen for Minneapolis. Keith wasn't there but plenty of his supporters were and we all started talking about who we liked for president. There were some Edwards' supporters and some Obama.....one or two Richardson folks but the overwhelming majority loved Hillary Clinton. In fact, one of my friends there said something that struck me.

"Well, I suppose I'm for Hillary...so we can continue the whole Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton thing."

To this day, I don't know if she was serious or kidding. Either way, we have a serious fucking problem on our hands, folks, and the Democrats who support Hillary don't seem to care. Ask yourselves this question: do you want to allow the same two families to run our country for at least 24 years? That's an entire generation!! Good God, people!!! Can any of you see what is happening to our country? Do we want to live in a monarchy!?

Much like the Bushie, the Hillites are passionate, driven, and centrally focused. I mean this as a negative, not a positive. To make matters worse, they want payback. Payback for the last 8 years. Some Hillary supporters I have talked to over the last few months are the biggest cunts I have ever met...and they ain't all women folks! They want to force their agenda down the throats of the American people just like Bush did and they aren't in the mood for compromise. They want to continue the childish, bickering partisan bullshit of the last ten years.

And, just as with President Bush, if this happens, nothing will be accomplished and I suspect we will be worse off than we are now. It will be four years of the conservative pundits being on the offense again and folks like Moveon.org will have renewed life on defense. These people are still going to be around and we can't be having this shit anymore. We have serious work to do, people, and our country depends on it. We don't have time for this crap anymore.

Remember my column two weeks back? Republicans want Hillary to win so they can have their perfect opponent. Unless that opponent is Rudy Giuliani, we are going to have more of the same bullshit we have had for the last eight years. Can you imagine a Romney vs. Clinton election? Or a McCain vs. Clinton election? Pee-Yew!! As Senator Obama said last Saturday, after winning the South Carolina primary, this is an election about the past versus the future.

I am speaking directly to Hillary supporters here. The Clintons are the past. They had their time in the White House. Barack Obama is the future. Bottom line: Super Tuesday is one week away and I urge all of you who are Democrats to NOT caucus for Hillary. If she wins, it forces people like myself to lose faith in the political process and not vote. Or vote for a third party candidate. I did that in 2000 and look what happened. I'm not the only one who is suffering from chronic regret.

We are on the cusp of something great here. We have a chance to really move forward. Why on earth would any of you want to move back?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

those who believe in Obama's new vision and beginning for America, where strength begins at home in unity of purpose and the restoring of principles and priorities, including America's credibility and influence abroad, which will enhance not diminish security, will vote for Obama. those who long for the clinton days when the economy was bright as was the president's grasp of the world, who have a soft spot for dynastic families and the familiar, who know Hillary will stay the course in the War on Terror, meaning the Middle East, meaning the current course t/w Iran, Israel, Iraq, will vote for hillary. All other voters are up for grabs. by the look of things, there sure are a lot of disillusioned undecideds in both the Republican and Democratic leaning spheres.

Anonymous said...

If Clinton wins, I move to Canada or Europe.

Anonymous said...

I must agree Mark, she is quite unelectable in the general in my opinion. Don't forget her husband pushed through NAFTA that has been a disaster. They want more bad trade deals like that in the future. No thanks!

She is a corporatist much like bush. They live to please and get money from big corporations.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, if anyone in the Democratic party votes Hillary in then they have ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING BUSINESS BITCHING ABOUT ANYTHING FOR EVER AND EVER UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME!!!

I also agree that Barack Obama would change the face of politics for ever and so it is incredibly frustrating to see the Democrats, after behaving like toadies for the last eight years, continuing the bull crap!

Anonymous said...

I rarely actually took the time to click on the link to your blog - but I just did and I think it is very well done. Nice job, cowboy.

Anonymous said...

Florida...
Much to my chagrin, it appears that John McCain is on an unstoppable train to the nomination. I think it will prove interesting to see if the media’s adoration for this “maverick” continues once he square’s off w/ the Democrat candidate.

Anonymous said...

Edwards is dropping out today. Who do you folks think that helps? I think it helps Obama because there seems to be 2 groups of democrats - those who like Hillary and those who don't like Hillary.

Rudy is dropping out today. His shite went downhill ever since that story came out about him going to see his gf with security in tow (even though it was his 24 hour security that went with him where ever he went regardless).

McCain has a lot of primary momentum now headed into super Tuesday.

I think if it is Hillary vs. McCain, one of them will win 55% - 45%. Not sure which one will win.

I think that if it is Obama vs. McCain, Obama wins.

I hope Obama wins the primary just to ensure Hillary doesn't get anywhere near the office of President.

One thing I've noticed - very few people (Mark included) ever talk about Obamas voting record. He is a dynamic speaker indeed but a voting record is proof of what politicians actually do and not what they say they do (there is always a difference). There was no mention of his voting record in the presidential profiles on here...just lofty things like "Equality in all areas of our country would have been the order of the day."

I'm sorry but mankind will never be remade like that and I get leery of politicians taking steps to enforce their definition of "fairness". Free societies naturally gravitate toward a system where some people have a lot and some people have nothing, with a whole slew of intermediate levels in between. It's a consequence of human nature, plain and simple.

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, whats with "electability"???

When you think a candidate is electable aren't you really saying that you think others will like him? What happened to which candidate comes closest to representing your views on things? I remember in the Dem primary in 2004 they all thought Kerry was more electable then the other guys. Now I hear pundits saying the same thing about McCain.

Anonymous said...

I’m not so sure, Crab.

Hillary is enough of a polarizing figure that I think McCain wins that one. I wouldn't compare McCain to Reagan, but his appeal to the moderates of both parties is undeniably similar.

Obama is trouble, though. The best analogy I heard recently when a GOP analyst heard him speak was something akin to the reaction of Roy Schieder in Jaws…”Whoa…we’re gonna need a bigger boat,”; he was that good a speaker. So Clearly McCain pushes the experience angle versus Obama and forces him to add a little meat to the bones of his plans…I foresee a rejuvenation of “Where’s the beef?” analogies. However, Obama is still trouble because too many people live for that sunny rhetoric and a return to Camelot.

(I must confess to really liking Obama, though…his bash of the other candidates when each was asked what their weakness was, was priceless. When asked his weakness, he confessed to having an unorganized desk but the others came back w/ ridiculous failings such as “I just work too hard for the poor” or “I just care too much…” His response, “geez, I wish I would have gone last…If I known how to answer when you asked what my weakness was, I would have said, ‘helping old ladies cross the street or something like that’. …loved it.)

Anonymous said...

oh my God, i am seeing a new kind of logical, likeable side of Just Dave and Last in Line... how completely weird??? :)) i know, i know, weird must be referring to moi, in this case. i wish i'd seen the debate that jd mentioned, i do like obama's unrehearsed, natural, intelligent guy next door, unspun down to earth way about him. reading all the posts was really interesting. some good questions and funny points. love the 'im moving to canada' -- hope you don't have to do that, paul!

Anonymous said...

My likeable side? I don't have a likeable side jt. I'd better get back to being more racist and intolerant. Maybe I'll dropkick a few geriatrics for good measure.

I am a conservative and I will vote for the person in the race who is closest to that smaller, less government philosophy but I'm not blind to what is happening. I don't dislike McCain but I don't think McCain is the strongest choice the GOP could have put forth. Just my opinion. Hey - we still have super Tuesday coming up and neither political party has anyone set in stone yet.

I don't think Paul J will be moving to Canada, but maybe he will follow one of my heros - Charlie Griffin - who is a former poster in these discussions. He hated GWB and he moved over to Eastern Europe somewhere a few years ago. Anemic job growth and an 80% tax rate over there but at least he has free health care.

Anonymous said...

you're too hard on yourself last in line, even in sarcastic mode.

america is the greatest country on earth IF the government would stop continously hedging the bets in favour of the most plundering corrupt and organised criminal elements within society and in other societies. not talking about the wealthy who apply the rule of law and taxation to themselves or corporations which are transparent and held accountable for their deeds and misdeeds -- or accountable politicians, for that matter.

We all want smaller, less intrusive 'compassionate' (not selectively so) as well as 'conservative' (in terms of fiscal caution with the peoples' wealth and moral responsibility at home and abroad) government.

sometimes a person who sells themselves as something to get into the whitehouse, doesn't live up to the promise.

Anonymous said...

You said Hard On.



huhhuhhuh

Anonymous said...

child. u are. last in line. your sense of humour reminds me of a 4-year-old's i know. thankfully not mentioning your mentions, although he does like 'booboos' meaning, boobs.

on the same, but completely unrelated subject, we need a president with a complex (not complicated) mind.