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Sunday, July 25, 2010

If He Were In Al Qaeda...

Last Sunday, Bryon Williams loaded up his car with guns and body armor and headed to the San Francisco offices of ACLU and the Tides Foundation. He was sick and tired of them and was going to send a message. Thankfully, the police stopped him in a shootout. More fortunately, the only injuries policed suffered were from broken glass. Police have said that Williams may not have been acting alone.

While it's possible that others may have been involved in aiding him or he may have been a part of a small group of malcontents on a lower level, the overall issue of him "acting alone" is not in question. Like Scott Roeder, Williams is yet another member of the Cult that just couldn't take it anymore.

The 45-year-old Groveland man has a history of anti-government and anti-corporation behavior, and a deep-rooted hate for liberal causes, authorities said. He reportedly ranted at one point about "the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," according to published reports.

Railroading through left wing agenda items? That's The Cult 101, baby.

Talking Points Memo has a story about how Glenn Beck has spent a lot of time discussing the Tides Foundation. No doubt, it's possible that this group will become another ACORN...falling victim to libel and entrapment in what clearly is the Cult goal of destroying any social causes. Beck has described at length how the real agenda behind Tides is more sinister.

The Tides Foundation, they started laying the groundwork on this back during the Reagan administration. They have been assembling an army that we have laughed at and have dismissed as a bunch of community organizers. "These people are bullies," Beck said. "These people are thugs."

Of course, Beck can't be held responsible for Williams' actions, right? I mean, it is OK to yell fire in a crowded theater, isn't it?

Of course it is in the land of the Cult. Sharon Angle, the Cult nominee in Nevada running against Harry Reid, had this to say.

You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a country to have a revolution every 20 years.


I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.

Taking people out is what Sarah Palin talked about when she put up this map (left) of the United States which literally targets Congressional candidates. Silly me, though, I'm sure I'm just imagining all of this. And, naturally, I'm "just as bad."

Dan Gainor, the Vice President of the Media Research Center (a Cult group), offered $100 to anyone who punches Democratic Florida Representative Alan Grayson in the face. Following this comment, came a death threat to the Congressman's office which claimed that "10 people are going to kill Grayson in the next 24 hours."

But again, correlation does not mean causation. I mean, my lyin' ears and eyes must be fibbing up a storm because Williams is a "lone nut" who is just like all the liberal loonies out there...loonies who are encouraged by Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosito to hurt or kill people. Silly me (again). I must remember that there is balance and that there are two sides (hurling sound of Mark throwing up in his mouth) to every story.

Indeed, comparisons should always be drawn. Because if Williams were a member of Al Qaeda...


14 comments:

juris imprudent said...

Man who shot at CHP officers has a long and violent criminal history

That was the headline for the article M linked to, but failed to note.

Why did he fail to note this? Was it perhaps because he wanted to make it look like this guy was previously a law-abiding but right-wing nut-job - someone who just couldn't take anymore? Would M really push that kind of narrative, rather than simply admit this was a violent and troubled person? Nahhhhhhh.

Is M attempting to tar all Tea Partiers, Conservatives and Libertarians (note that those are not all the same by any means) with the actions of some violent lunatics? Like Beck has done with the New Black Panther Party? Surely, M is not stooping to the tactics of those he most despises? Oh, wait, of course he is - he has said that it pisses him off how successful these tactics are for the right-wing (while ignoring that the left-wing first developed them).

In fact here are the first five paragraphs BEFORE the one that gave M a raging hard-on:

OAKLAND — Byron Christopher Williams, who police say might have been headed on a violent crime spree when he fired at CHP officers Saturday night, has done time in California and Washington and knew he was facing a third strike when he was stopped Saturday night carrying three firearms, authorities said.

The unemployed carpenter has been out of prison for three years and was on federal parole, authorities said.

In June 2002, Williams was arrested for bank robbery after robbing the California Federal Branch in Chowchilla. He had been planning to rob a Bank of America branch but abandoned that plan when he saw a long line and because customers and tellers laughed at the suit and blond wig he was wearing, according to published reports.

In Seattle and King County, where Williams lived during the 1990s, he was convicted of theft, assault, property destruction, drunken driving and hit-and-run, according to Washington Court reports.

He was arrested here early Sunday morning on suspicion of attempted homicide after a gunbattle with CHP officers following a traffic stop. Williams was injured in the gunbattle and remains at an Oakland hospital in stable condition, police said Monday.

A third strike could put him in prison for the rest of his life.


Love the context trimming M. First you tried this with the anti-IRS nut in Texas. He hated corporations as much as the govt - something he had in common with you. So apparently does this guy. Then you slung out the Hutaree and the neo-Nazi. Unfortunately, when you put the context around those people too, the picture isn't what you want it to be.

I am going to laugh my ass off at every fucking idiot liberal that misread the 2006 and 2008 elections while you cry your eyes out this November. I will have a big bag of salt and lemons to rub into your self-inflicted wounds.

juris imprudent said...

Speaking of sounding cultish...

They [non-progressives of various flavors] help change public opinion and they even influence the more credible media. Inaccurate Fox News reports have seeped into CNN, The New York Times, Washington Post, and others. These energetic efforts threaten the broader progressive agenda; in fact, you could even say it's a broad-ranging attack on the entire progressive community.

What kind of world is it when you can't count on the WaPo or the NYT to carry your water?

And notice, it isn't just a debate, it is an attack. Fucking spare me.

But I have to say thanks to M - this has been an enlightening morning. I didn't even know these people existed, and now I can keep an eye on them.

White Racists said...

By this logic, you're responsible for the beating of Ken Gladney, and the guy who got his finger bitten off, and all those people in the Northwest who got their houses firebombed, and every logger ever injured or killed by a spiked tree.

Flat Earthers said...

I must remember that there is balance and that there are two sides (hurling sound of Mark throwing up in his mouth) to every story.

This is you being reflective and thinking critically, is it? I ask merely for information.

todd r. said...

On the Gladney case:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200908080004

And you're going to have to show me the blog post where Mark told someone to go out and beat up or take out members of the Right. His goal as far as I have been able to see is to fight back with facts and make them irrelevant.

The allusions to violence are far more institutionalized on the right than the left. These are elected leaders, leaders that have run or are running for office, or mainstream commentators who are urging violence and taking people out.

brendan said...

Juris, tides is right. The "liberal" media is being driven now by the right wing blogs and the number one news station in the world-Fox. And Eugene Robinson has clarified the real goal

"These allegations of anti-white racism are being deliberately hyped and exaggerated because they are designed to make whites fearful. It won't work with most people, of course, but it works with some -- enough, perhaps, to help erode Obama's political standing and damage his party's prospects at the polls."

Mark is right. It's about one thing for the Right..Destroy.

juris imprudent said...

Mark is right. It's about one thing for the Right..Destroy.

Considering the things Tides advocates for I would apply the same goal..Destroy. Destroy the non-believers, the un-worthy!

I don't need or want to be made a better person, a better part of society by any fuckwad - left or right. You believe that any "progressive" thing is good - just like right-wingnuts believe their agenda is good. If I can keep them out of my pants and you out of my wallet I might just actually have some peace.

What a chorus of morons to agree with such cheap melodrama.

Mark Ward said...

Juris, deleted your spare comments. Doubling seems to happen when you open up a tab and comment. Google erroneously states that your comment is too large so one is prone to post again hence the doubling. Ignore the google warning or simply click on the comments and open up a new instance of your browser.

Mark Ward said...

I guess I'm wondering how much longer things are going to explained away like this. he was "just a loon" and "hated everyone." Did you miss the part about the liberal agenda and Congress railroading things through?

Sharon Engle and Sarah Palin are, will, or have run for office. Who on the left (like them running for office) is saying similarly violent themed things?

juris imprudent said...

Juris, deleted your spare comments.

Muchos gracias. That was indeed the error message I got.

Did you miss the part about the liberal agenda and Congress railroading things through?

No, I caught that, in its proper context. Which was with a lot of qualifiers. The simple fact is that this guy was not your average Joe - not of left, right or center. I would say he was about 5 sigmas off of average. Just like the Times Square bomber-wannabe, Maj. Hasan, Kacyzinski and McVeigh.

What you wish to do is impute the same motives that he had to everyone at all right of center. All you are doing is attempting to fear-monger. If you don't like getting called on that, then don't do it. You are doing everything that you claim is so awful about Beck. What's the word for that - something starting with an 'h'?

Damn Teabaggers said...

Sharon Engle and Sarah Palin are, will, or have run for office. Who on the left (like them running for office) is saying similarly violent themed things?

"These people are bullies," Beck said. "These people are thugs."

And all this is worse than the Speaker of the House calling people "Nazis" and the Senate Majority Leader calling them "evil-mongers" how, exactly?

This is different from David Axelrod, Obama's senior advisor, telling people to "punch back twice as hard" how, exactly?

Your reaction is as factual, reasoned, accurate and rational as accusing Sarah Palin of racism for wearing white.

last in line said...

Thank you for existing Juris.

I blame Bill Clinton for this guys assault in the 1990's.

juris imprudent said...

Hmmm, nothing to say, on any thread or new topic for a week now?

last in line said...

Diversity training.