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Thursday, March 12, 2015

Hillary Mental Meltdown Syndrome

Republicans have really become unhinged since the Hillary Clinton email kerfuffle began. Of course, they are like this with all of their opponents, especially the ones that have kicked their ass electorally (Bill, Barack). Now they want to see every single email she has ever sent which strikes me as odd for a number of reasons. Aren't they the party that prides themselves on the privacy of the individual? Their calls for all her emails runs counter to this tenet. It also shows their secret, authoritarian streak that they would like to keep hidden but somehow manages to always reveal itself.

Like the adolescent gossip that has to know what's going on all over the school, they REALLY want to know about every detail of Hillary's life. In more than a few ways, it strikes me as somewhat perverse. What they also don't realize is that their demands for all her emails, which grow more shrill by the minute, will eventually lead to demands for ALL THEIR EMAILS. I realize that some Senators like Lindsey Graham claim to never use email but I'm sure that many Republican Senators and Congressmen do use email.

So, does that mean we get to see their emails now too?:)

23 comments:

Nikto said...

Where was Republican outrage when Karl Rove deleted all his emails in regard to the dismissal of US attorneys who wouldn't play ball with his voter suppression scheme? Rove and other officials used a private email server (gwb43.com) to concoct this plot to avoid leaving an electronic trail of the conspiracy.

But Republicans have no memory for inconvenient facts.

Lindsey Graham may not send emails, but you can be sure his staff does on his behalf, and they're just as bound by open records laws.

I also wouldn't characterize politicians who don't use email as Luddites. They're just being smart.

If I were a senator I would never use email, or Twitter or Facebook. Electronic media encourage petty fits of pique and idiotic behavior, in the mold of Anthony Weiner. I would also never use text messaging, except for setting up appointments. And I would avoid discussions of substance over any kind of telephone, especially cell phones, because it's being broadcast to the world.

GuardDuck said...

Now they want to see every single email she has ever sent which strikes me as odd for a number of reasons.


It shouldn't. If it's an official communication then it is public property. Since she stupidly mixed official and private then they have to be sorted. But since she also stupidly used a private server and is therefore the gatekeeper of all access to that server - then the question of impropriety is there. Especially considering her statements the other day were almost immediately shown to be lies.

If she's lying, what's she trying to hide?

Mark Ward said...

I think it's pretty sad that we now believe that the default position for politicians is lying and hiding something. In many ways, this is the great logical fallacy of our time...misleading vividness.

I don't really care about Scott Walker's email scandal either. How does that in any way translate into what sort of job he would do as president? What we should be looking at is his economic record in Wisconsin and asking him what his policies are going to be regarding our national economy. Judge him based on his record, not whatever gets the media's rocks off this week (see: bright, shiny object).

Larry said...

She should have turned over all official emails back when she left office. That's what's required of everyone else. And there are zero, zilch, nada privacy rights for a public official on their work email. When someone stupidly mixes work and personal, then some third party ought to step in and the default assumption should be, especially when classified info is almost certainly present, is to treat it as ALL work-related until it's proven otherwise. Trusting a politician to decide what to turn over and what not to is terribly naive at best. And trusting a Clinton is just stupid. I'm sure if Cheney had pulled something this hare-brained that you and Nikto would be just as solicitous and understanding?

GuardDuck said...

I think it's pretty sad that we now believe that the default position for politicians is lying and hiding something.

I think you misread me. I didn't assume she was lying just because she's a politician. I said she lied because she did lie.

So the question is - what is she lying in order to hide?

Mark Ward said...

What exactly is she lying about? And why does it matter? Why didn't it matter when Karl Rove did it? Or Colin Powell?

Again, I don't really care about email scandals regardless of who is involved. Shouldn't we be more concerned about what policies Hillary is going to implement and whether or not they will work?

GuardDuck said...

Again, I don't really care about email scandals regardless of who is involved.

Then why are you asking what she lied about? If you don't care about the email, then you also don't care about her lying about it?


Do you think you would have cared about some missing minutes in a White House recording tape?


Mark Ward said...

Well, you seem to think she lied about something. What was it?

GuardDuck said...

Well, you seem to think she lied about something. What was it?


Internet Catches Hillary in Three Provable Email Falsehoods

#1: Hillary only used one phone

#2: Bill Clinton uses email, too

#3: There were no server security breaches



Hillary’s email explanation is self-contradictory – here’s how (#TurnOverTheServer)

Hillary explained that she turned over all work-related emails to the State Department, and “chose not to keep” (i.e., deleted) the personal emails on the server.

Thus, according to Hillary, the server now only has work related emails.

But Hillary says that she will not turn over the server to a neutral person for review, because the server has her personal emails on it.

But she already said the personal emails are not on it anymore.

Hillary’s explanation is self-contradictory

Mark Ward said...

Other sources that back up this assertion?

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juris imprudent said...

I think it's pretty sad that we now believe that the default position for politicians is lying and hiding something

That isn't your default assumption about the opposition party? Don't I recall a great stink from the Democrats about Cheney's energy advisory panel early in the Bush administration?

Mark Ward said...

I deleted your comment, GD, because you broke the rule regarding arguments about arguments/personal remarks/childish taunting

GuardDuck said...

Well, we disagree on that.....


Now that you have been provided with the information, do you have any comment?

Mark Ward said...

I'm not going to comment on a single source of information unless we're talking about mere opinion. Since the article is presenting this stuff as fact, I'd like to see some more sources that say the same thing...non bubble sources.

My overall comment still stands....so what? Conservatives should be focusing on why their policies would be better for the country. Now why aren't they doing that?:)

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GuardDuck said...

My overall comment still stands....so what? Conservatives should be focusing on why their policies would be better for the country. Now why aren't they doing that?:)


So it doesn't matter that she may have lied, committed crimes, leaked confidential information to foreign governments...or was just too monumentally stupid to know better - these things don't matter when discussing the potential next Democratic Presidential candidate.

What's really, really important is to turn the focus upon the Republicans......

GuardDuck said...
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Mark Ward said...

That's because you continue to leave comments which contain personal remarks about me and are falling into the "arguments about arguments" category. You've also left some comments that are mis-characterizing what I am saying but since they are generally about Hillary Clinton and other politicians, I guess they are fine.

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Mark Ward said...

I've explained myself several times, GD. Arguing about arguments (you wrote this, I wrote that etc) and personal remarks are no longer allowed on this site. Even this comment is essentially doing that. Stick to comments about public figures, groups of people and leave me out of it.