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Tuesday, March 10, 2015

Adolescent Babies

When have the Democrats ever done anything like this?

GOP Tries to Undercut Nuclear Deal With Warning to Iran

Seriously, what a bunch of fucking adolescent babies!

Barack Obama must fail at everything he does regardless of the cost to the United States' standing in the world. Like the adolescent that wants to destroy the roof over his head and the table that feeds him, Republicans have honestly gone way over the line on this one. Imagine what would happen if Democrats did something like this. The right wing bubble would be screaming about treason and traitors!

Worse, the Republicans who signed this letter are completely failing (as usual) to think in a forward fashion. Iran is likely going to be a future ally in the region (see also: the real reason Bibi Netanyahu is blowing a bowel) because of the threat of ISIL. We are going to need Iran if we want to stop these guys. Don't they understand this?

Ah, right...understand...a word that is eternally absent from their vocabulary.

12 comments:

Nikto said...

Worse, the Republicans are telling the entire world that the United States is not a reliable ally, and that a new president could simply undo everything a previous president did.

These days conservative Americans' hearts are all aflutter about how tough Bibi Netanyahu is. But historically, there has a been strong anti-Semitic and racist streak among American conservatives, especially in the South where most of the signatories of the letter reside.

If American policy will change based on the whims of historically racist and anti-Semitic Americans, what message does this send to Israel?

And these Republicans were the same ones who called Democrats traitors when they suggested that invading Iraq would not be easy and cheap, and would simply serve to recruit more terrorists to the jihadis' side, by bombing civilians and torturing prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

Bush and the Republicans were duped by Iranian agents and handed over Iraq to the Iranians by eliminating Saddam, Iran's greatest enemy, and created ISIS in the process.

The dissenting Democrats were right and Bush and his cronies were wrong. Dead wrong.

If I were Israel I wouldn't trust these Republicans at all. They keep saying that America is a "Christian country" and that's code for "Christ killers not wanted."

GuardDuck said...

The right wing bubble would be screaming about treason and traitors!

The cries of “traitor” ring out

Mark Ward said...

A great example of adolescent behavior, straw men and zero suggestions in what our policy towards Iran should be. In short, not a serious site.

GuardDuck said...

But historically, there has a been strong anti-Semitic and racist streak among American conservatives, especially in the South where most of the signatories of the letter reside.

But historically - and currently - there is much greater anti-Israel bias on the left than on the right. Claiming otherwise just isn't true.

Mark Ward said...

There is indeed an anti-Israeli bias on the left and I find it nauseating. There should be zero sympathy for the Palestinians who regularly abuse women and ignore universal human rights. The left are complete hypocrites on this one and need to unfuck themselves.

juris imprudent said...

When have the Democrats ever done anything like this?

Funny you should ask.

GuardDuck said...

A great example of adolescent behavior, straw men and zero suggestions in what our policy towards Iran should be. In short, not a serious site.

Well, considering the post I was replying to was a great example of adolescent behavior, straw men and zero understanding of game theory - In short, not a serious site - I think it was an perfectly ideal counter.


But let me ask you something - did you actually read the letter, or just the White house press release about the letter?

If you read the letter - can you explain how explaining how our system works can the characterized as 'undercutting' the 'deal'?

Mark Ward said...

I think that the link you provided honestly speaks volumes, juris. This story has now overtaken the Hillary email story, even on the day that she had her little press conference. What an absolute embarrassment for the Republicans. They even have their own guys like Senator Corker and Senator Flake coming out against them.

As the link illustrates, they are now in "the Democrats did it too!" mode combined with trotting out false equivalencies (apartheid, really?) and a letter signed by 10 House Democrats. Do you honestly think this is comparable? I don't.

GD, I read the letter and found it to be one long adolescent stomp down the hallway, complete with the insecure "please notice us!" tone that is so common with that maturity level. That's what I got from their explanation of how our system works. In short, it was pathetic. And guess what? The rest of the political world, including Republicans, think so too.

Of course, this is really peanuts compared to the larger issue of what to do about Iran. What is their alternative to what the president is doing? What's yours?

Larry said...

Worse, the Republicans are telling the entire world that the United States is not a reliable ally, and that a new president could simply undo everything a previous president did.

Ummm ... interesting viewpoint. First, there's not been the remotest chance of Iran ever conceivably being an ally for most of 4 decades, nor at any time in the foreseeable future. Second, the letter stated a basic fact of US law: without a treaty ratified by 3/5ths of the Senate, it certainly can be changed either with a change of president, or even by Mr. Obama himself.

Larry said...

When have the Democrats ever done anything like this?

U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Wednesday for talks criticized by the White House as undermining American efforts to isolate the hard-line Arab country. [...] Pelosi’s visit to Syria was the latest challenge to the White House by congressional Democrats, who are taking a more assertive role in influencing policy in the Middle East and the Iraq war.

Kennedy became the Senate's leading advocate for a nuclear freeze[154] and was a critic of Reagan's confrontational policies toward the Soviet Union.[155][156][157] A 1983 memorandum from KGB Chairman Viktor Chebrikov to General Secretary Yuri Andropov noted this stance and asserted that Kennedy, through former Senator John Tunney's discussions with Soviet contacts, had suggested that U.S.-Soviet relations might be improved if Kennedy and Andropov could meet in person to discuss arms control issues and if top Soviet officials, via Kennedy's help, were able to address the American public through the U.S. news media.[158] Andropov was unimpressed by the idea.[158]


juris imprudent said...

Of course, this is really peanuts compared to the larger issue of what to do about Iran.

Um, just who in the world decided that it was up to us to decide this? Wouldn't that normally fall under American neo-imperialism?

GuardDuck said...

Of course, this is really peanuts compared to the larger issue of what to do about Iran. What is their alternative to what the president is doing? What's yours?

The alternative is to create a binding treaty that congress will approve. Considering that is the job of congress to do so - not the job of the president to unilaterally do.

Of course since this is a president who DID actually disrupt his predecessors work to do so - this entire line of accusation seems a bit, well, partisan.