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Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Victory?

Today I'm wondering where the victory is that both sides are claiming in the recall elections in Wisconsin last night. The Democrats fell one short of the three elections they needed to take back the Senate and the GOP lost two seats. Yet both sides are claiming victory.

The only victory I see is a win for polarity. Take a look at the results from last night's election. Granted, this is a special election which means only the most dedicated turn out but I think we can see from the numbers how evenly split the state is when it comes to politics.I suppose the saving grace in all of this is that the Democrats are more mobilized going into 2012. And they did take two seats away from the GOP so I guess that's something.

A victory in my eyes would be for all the working class people who voted for the person with the R next to their name realize two things. One, Republicans and the "job creators" that support them are not going to shower you with magical job dust because they don't believe in middle class driven economies. To put it simply, they don't give a shit about you and have brainwashed you into your vote. Two, you are not going to someday be one of these people and then have to fend off poor people trying to steal your money.

Your anger and fear are being manipulated into hate. Time to wake up, folks!

7 comments:

Jaxson said...

Your argument that the guy who shits directly in my mouth is much worse than the guy who puts his turd between two heels of moldy bread and serves it to me on a paper plate...

leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It doesn't have to be a R vs D choice. You paint yourself into a binary choice corner, you've convinced yourself that your choices are between vomit and diarrhea. (To use your words)

In my opinion, you are wasting brainpower trying to figure out which political party offends you the least.

rld said...

Almost 350,000 people voted in Tuesday’s recall elections — and Republicans won 53 percent of the total vote. Unions could only get 47 percent of Wisconsinites to support their effort.

Democrats outspent republicans 2-1 in Darlings district and still lost.

One side did win, and it wasn't yours. 53-47 isn't a victory for you, don't try to claim otherwise. Democrats are more mobilized now? They knocked on hundreds of thousands of doors and still lost. Keep pulling this stuff out of your ass, it's funny.

sw said...

http://www.jsonline.com/business/125961833.html

During the month of June, Wisconsin created more than half the jobs that were created in the entire US? wow "job creators" indeed markadelphia.

Anonymous said...

Apparently an official in Wisconsin must hold office for a year before they can be recalled. That means the only ones who could be recalled were incumbents, and were not swept into office by the "Tea Party" wave of last year.

That means the worst offenders -- die-hard Tea Partyers like Walker -- were essentially immune to recall this year.

That puts a different light on the results. People usually like their own representatives but think the others are clowns. Thus, incumbents generally have a huge advantage over challengers in any election, winning far more than two-thirds of the time.

The Republicans also committed what amounts to electoral fraud, putting up fake Democrats to force primaries, sending out voter registration cards to Democrats giving them the wrong date for the election, and so on. They made this contest seem like a farce, and the more the average voter becomes disenchanted with the whole process, the more success the fanatics enjoy.

The results of this election are therefore too ambiguous to gauge the results as an indicator of any national or even local trend.

Mark Ward said...

One side did win, and it wasn't yours.

I think you have missed my point, rld. Before the recalls, the GOP had a 19-14 advantage over the Democrats. Now it is 17-16. That's not a win for the GOP and it's not win for the Democrats who fell one short. How do you see a net loss of two seats as win for the GOP and an endorsement of Walker's policies? Again, where is the victory?

That means the only ones who could be recalled were incumbents

Right. So what does that tell you? The real battle is the recall for Scott Walker. The whole state will be voting in that one and not just certain districts. Your percentages, rld, won't matter at all as those numbers are all for GOP leaning districts. What do you think is going to happen when Madison and Milwaukee votes?

SW, the law with the new bargaining rights did not go into effect officially until the middle of June after the Supreme Court ruling.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303848104576386122936205978.html

It is unlikely that the two are correlated. And if you are giving Walker credit for creating private sector jobs, does that mean President Obama gets credit for all the ones he has created?

Don said...

Mark, nobody in this discussion said that piece of legislation was responsible for those numbers. As usual, you didn't really read what was said to you and the voices in your head created a claim out of thin air.

The victory could be that you aren't exactly crowing about the election results and performing juvenile taunts on here.

Let's hope the people of Milwaukee can make it to the voting booth. A mob of "youths" may impede their progress like they did at the state fair.

Anonymous said...

A victory in my eyes would be for all the working class people who voted for the person with the D next to their name realize two things. One, Democrats and the "pubic employees" that support them are not going to shower you with magical job dust because they don't believe in middle class driven economies. To put it simply, they don't give a shit about you and have brainwashed you into your vote. Two, you are not going to someday be one of these people and then have to fend off poor people trying to steal your money because those morons will make us all poor except for the inevitable nomenklatura.

Your anger and fear are being manipulated into hate. Time to wake up, folks!

--Mark's smarter brother