Wait until Jeb Bush gets in there, and you find your ass drone-fisted into praising Jesus. Those pesky "precedents" are going to come back to bite you.
Another great article from Mead. I know M will read this (assuming he can be bothered) and pine for the good ol' days while forgetting what he learned from Manzi.
But the health care law’s troubles shed some further light on the crisis of American progressivism and the blue social model it has built.
This comment makes no sense when you consider that the individual mandate was proposed as a conservative idea (The Heritage Foundation). No more free riders on the system and everyone has to buy private insurance, right? As soon as it became the president's idea, then it was "progressive and bad."
This comment makes no sense when you consider that the individual mandate was proposed as a conservative idea
Ok, so let's break this myth down. Some conservatives proposed a mandate, most likely in reaction to the pushes from the left for universal healthcare. It was never an idea that carried broad conservative support. It was proposed and died; it was not some ongoing theme that was tossed over the microsecond it became a progressive proposal. Perhaps the progressives mistakenly believed that since some conservatives had toyed with the idea, all conservatives would rally to it.
None of which matters to Randy Barnett and many of the people that opposed the mandate in the PPACA - because those people were never on board with Heritage back in the day.
You see M, Team RED borrows from Team BLUE and vice versa. Why did the Republicans hate Clinton so much - because he stole welfare reform from them and sold it as his own. You constantly snivel about how the right-wing is better at such and such tactic than the left-wing is. This is one reason it is so amusing to hear people talk about how the vast split and deep polarization in this country. Another perfect example - how you harp on right-wing ideologues while calling yourself a pragmatic liberal.
In many ways, the mandate is a conservative idea...taking individual responsibility for your place in the system and doing so through the private sector. The Heritage Foundation isn't exactly an organization filled with pikers, juris.
Perhaps the progressives mistakenly believed that since some conservatives had toyed with the idea, all conservatives would rally to it.
Oh, they made a mistake, alright. They didn't count on the fact that nearly all of the things that the president would get behind would garner 8 year old boy temper tantrums of "I don't wanna!!!!"
Why did the Republicans hate Clinton so much - because he stole welfare reform from them and sold it as his own
Agreed and, again, 8 year old boy temper tantrum.
I don't see same level of the knee jerk ANTI whatever attitude coming from the left, though. That's why I consider myself (as well as the president and most Democrats in Congress) to be more pragmatic.
Meh. I think it was more a tactical than strategic move, but that's just me.
I don't see same level of the knee jerk ANTI whatever attitude coming from the left, though.
No, by golly as soon as their guy got in the White House, the opposition to war just evaporated. Apparently that is only knee-jerk when the other side is doing it. You make me laugh when you say stuff like this and boast about how self-reflective and aware you are.
Meh. I think it was more a tactical than strategic move, but that's just me.
Well, you might be right. Clearly, having more people spend money in the private sector and not funnel it towards a government program is their strategy.
the opposition to war just evaporated.
It evaporated from the media coverage but Cindy Sheehan and all the WTO protesters are still out there doing their thing. Many on the left are very unhappy with the president on Afghanistan and his national security policies. It's out there, juris, you just have to look for it.
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What are you trying to point out?
That government has too much power?
No shit.
Wait until Jeb Bush gets in there, and you find your ass drone-fisted into praising Jesus. Those pesky "precedents" are going to come back to bite you.
I've always thought that Jeb Bush was more of a moderate especially with his stance on immigration. He certainly has no fans on the libertarian right.
Another great article from Mead. I know M will read this (assuming he can be bothered) and pine for the good ol' days while forgetting what he learned from Manzi.
But the health care law’s troubles shed some further light on the crisis of American progressivism and the blue social model it has built.
This comment makes no sense when you consider that the individual mandate was proposed as a conservative idea (The Heritage Foundation). No more free riders on the system and everyone has to buy private insurance, right? As soon as it became the president's idea, then it was "progressive and bad."
This comment makes no sense when you consider that the individual mandate was proposed as a conservative idea
Ok, so let's break this myth down. Some conservatives proposed a mandate, most likely in reaction to the pushes from the left for universal healthcare. It was never an idea that carried broad conservative support. It was proposed and died; it was not some ongoing theme that was tossed over the microsecond it became a progressive proposal. Perhaps the progressives mistakenly believed that since some conservatives had toyed with the idea, all conservatives would rally to it.
None of which matters to Randy Barnett and many of the people that opposed the mandate in the PPACA - because those people were never on board with Heritage back in the day.
You see M, Team RED borrows from Team BLUE and vice versa. Why did the Republicans hate Clinton so much - because he stole welfare reform from them and sold it as his own. You constantly snivel about how the right-wing is better at such and such tactic than the left-wing is. This is one reason it is so amusing to hear people talk about how the vast split and deep polarization in this country. Another perfect example - how you harp on right-wing ideologues while calling yourself a pragmatic liberal.
Some conservatives proposed a mandate
In many ways, the mandate is a conservative idea...taking individual responsibility for your place in the system and doing so through the private sector. The Heritage Foundation isn't exactly an organization filled with pikers, juris.
Perhaps the progressives mistakenly believed that since some conservatives had toyed with the idea, all conservatives would rally to it.
Oh, they made a mistake, alright. They didn't count on the fact that nearly all of the things that the president would get behind would garner 8 year old boy temper tantrums of "I don't wanna!!!!"
Why did the Republicans hate Clinton so much - because he stole welfare reform from them and sold it as his own
Agreed and, again, 8 year old boy temper tantrum.
I don't see same level of the knee jerk ANTI whatever attitude coming from the left, though. That's why I consider myself (as well as the president and most Democrats in Congress) to be more pragmatic.
the mandate is a conservative idea
Meh. I think it was more a tactical than strategic move, but that's just me.
I don't see same level of the knee jerk ANTI whatever attitude coming from the left, though.
No, by golly as soon as their guy got in the White House, the opposition to war just evaporated. Apparently that is only knee-jerk when the other side is doing it. You make me laugh when you say stuff like this and boast about how self-reflective and aware you are.
Meh. I think it was more a tactical than strategic move, but that's just me.
Well, you might be right. Clearly, having more people spend money in the private sector and not funnel it towards a government program is their strategy.
the opposition to war just evaporated.
It evaporated from the media coverage but Cindy Sheehan and all the WTO protesters are still out there doing their thing. Many on the left are very unhappy with the president on Afghanistan and his national security policies. It's out there, juris, you just have to look for it.
http://thehill.com/capital-living/cover-stories/86083-giving-peace-another-chance
It evaporated from the media coverage
You mean the center-right, independent, balanced media?
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