For my conservative Christian friends...
“It is not a good strategy to be at the center of a sphere,” the Pope stated. “To understand we ought to move around, to see reality from various viewpoints. We ought to get used to thinking.”
“This is really very important to me: the need to become acquainted with reality by experience, to spend time walking on the periphery in order really to become acquainted with the reality and life – experiences of people,” Pope Francis continued. “If this does not happen we then run the risk of being abstract ideologists or fundamentalists, which is not healthy.”
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Words of wisdom you should pay attention to, Markadelphia.
He's talking about you guys, Larry, not me. Not surprising that you turn it immediately around on me in typical adolescent fashion. Demonstrate how you see reality from various viewpoints and adhere to an ideology based on thinking.
He's talking about you guys, Larry, not me.
You are just so "us or them", aren't you? I mean it is honestly funny, and of course a bit sad. Must be part of why you hated Bush so much - you are so alike.
Who turned it around, Markadelphia? All I was doing was pointing out that you ought to listen to his words, too. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, after all.
And you whining about me being adolescent by pointing out that you could stand to learn something, too, is pretty rich considering that the whole reason you posted this was pure adolescent bitchery. You really are a piece of work, Markadelphia. You really ought to pay more attention to what Pope Francis says instead of merely using his words to score adolescent points.
juris is right. You are such a tribal little shit.
Let's test your assertion. I think that when you see liberals from a conservative point of view it's worth noting that the Right is correct to a great extent when they label the left as naive in terms of international security (so are libertarians). The Right is also correct in noting the left's knees jerk reaction with energy (nuclear power=bad no matter what). A similar knee jerk reaction occurs when corporations are discussed. They aren't ALL bad and have, in fact, raised prosperity in the world. I've mentioned all this many times before but you are a dick so you ignore it.
Now, let's see if you can be just as critical of conservatives. Remember, saying they act like liberals doesn't count:)
Ah, there's the diversional red herring, as expected. You have no fucking memory, do you? Have any one of us praised corporate welfare, you little weasel? I don't think you've talked about corporations in a positive light "many" times, but I do remember a few times. But 99% of your comments about corporations are negative to deeply negative to a few outright deranged ones. Are we not allowed to point out the stupidities of many of the 99% of your corporate comments because we agree with the other 1%? How fucked up a rule would that be?
Meanwhile, you completely fucking ignore our criticisms of corporate welfare and imply that we support it. How dishonest and childish is that behaviour on your part?
Commenters are here responding to your posts, doofus, not the other way around. Or would you really prefer that we all go off on off-topic tangents and hijack the posts?
I wish the the creationists would shut the fuck up and sit down in science class. It belongs in religion class (and when I went to school in Canada, that was a mandatory class). I have no problem with gay marriage except that it's already trending towards legal acceptance of group marriages (which probably won't happen soon because there are no extremely vociferous groups campaigning for it (yet), but with judges the way they often are, maybe they won't need them). Which has interesting implications for all kinds of law, including immigration. I think it will be a huge can of worms. I'd say get government out of marriage completely, and handle it as contract law on the civil side, and if you want religion in it, too, that's your choice. But the immigration issues are a can of worms that definitely do fall under .gov purview, as I'm sure the welfare issues will be, too.
The defence budget can certainly be cut, though liberals don't seem to realize that 25% of the defence budget is for personnel costs. A volunteer force of any reasonable quality isn't cheap. We can start by letting go 50% of the flag officers and their staffs. We've got admirals doing jobs that Lt. Cdrs. used to do. We've got Army captains doing jobs sergeants used to do. Military procurement is hopelessly broken, but the main reason it's broken is Congress and the hopelessly intricate and arcane procurement rules that government agencies have to follow, along with direct Congressional interference on certain programs, and only Congress can fix that. That's not to minimize the roles senior officers have played in the development of such abortions as the LCS and F-35. They are guilty, too.
Conservatives should declare that the Drug War is lost and that we were incredibly stupid to try to re-fight Prohibition. Drugs can be regulated and taxed like tobacco and alcohol. And still be discouraged.
But I've said all this before, and you ignored it then, and you will be ignoring this by next week at the latest. You like expecting others to follow rules that you yourself break willy-nilly (and then get pissy if we do the same to point out your hypocrisy). Maybe we should just play Calvinball full-time, too?
I'd say get government out of marriage completely, and handle it as contract law on the civil side, and if you want religion in it, too, that's your choice.
I agree. The government should not be in the marriage business. It should be in the contract business. Adults, regardless of the sexual preferences towards each other, should be able to enter into a simple contract without everyone blowing a bowel.
Conservatives should declare that the Drug War is lost
Agreed, but I see this more of a liberal problem than I conservative one, a criticism I left out of my previous comment. Liberals generally seem to think that drugs should be illegal. I think they all be legal, regulated and taxed. Certainly, enough are anyway and adding in a few more like pot, heroin and cocaine won't change anything.
outright deranged ones
Ah, Centerpoint/RMR as corporate force - that was classic. Poor SOB had people try to help him out of his hole and he just kept digging.
Yeah, about that Pope Francis guy…
“By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
— John 13:35
So throwing a fellow Christian under the bus in favor of a false religion is "love"?
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