First up, we have Minnesota's own Michelle Bachmann who said this on the floor of the US Congress., in regards to the House version of the health care bill.
Does that mean that someone's 13 year-old daughter could walk into a sex clinic, have a pregnancy test done, be taken away to the local Planned Parenthood abortion clinic, have their abortion, be back and go home on the school bus that night? Mom and dad are never the wiser, they don't know any different.
I so love the tap into your inner rage and pass if off as fact meme.
Next we have Trent Franks, Republican Congressmen from Arizona.
President Obama has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity.
Quick! Someone find me a rope!
Along those same lines, we had this question from a recent Facebook poll
Should President Obama be killed?
Rounding out our mix of linguistic joy from the day room at Bellevue we have this little ditty from John Perry of Newsmax.
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars.
He went on to say that President Obama is inviting a military coup and it would be pretty cool. You could file this last one under "Things The Base Like to Wank To At Night."
I must be out of my mind to say such awful things as I do about the right. The left is just as bad, right? I need to be more level-headed and less emotional.
Just like conservatives tell me they are every day.
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Interesting. So, let's address comment #1. Perhaps we can start from an known perspective: explain your position on why abortion is"ok". (i.e. morally correct, legal, a constitutional right, whatever) Then, maybe we can have a fact-based comparison of ideas. Or, just give your comments and leave it at that. It IS your blog after all.
When did I ever say that abortion was OK? Nice try, bub but I've been at this too long. I know a bullshit frame job when I see one.
In fact, I think it would be just fine if Roe V Wade were overturned. If abortion rights activists were smart, they would give it up. All it means is that the states get to decide and we saw in the last election that even red South Dakota voted down an anti abortion measure. While I'm certain a few states would outlaw it, most would still have it. And the right would lose a major national rallying cry for their base.
In addition, how would they nationally organize? The right espouses states rights so how could they justify telling people how to live in California from Mississippi? In fact, I think that Roe V Wade being chucked would actually strengthen sex education and abortion as birth control would be greatly diminished...which it should be.
I put up the Bachmann line to demonstrate how the right uses fear to manipulate people into thinking something is true. It's an absolute lie that 13 year olds are going to be put on a bus to an abortion clinic. Total bullshit and I am calling her on it.
Then I stand corrected on my assumption and apologize. Hardly a 'frame-up' job. Just an attempt to perhaps change a mind using facts without vitriol.
Good day to you, sir.
But it is classic conservative bullshit to say something like "explain your position on why abortion is"ok" because it frames the debate in such a way to engender anger.
Nicely done, Mark.
It's an absolute lie that 13 year olds are going to be put on a bus to an abortion clinic.
Yet, abortion is the only surgical procedure a minor can obtain without parental consent.
So fine, no one is "putting some girl on a bus", but 'parental notice/consent' laws have been bitterly opposed by the pro-Roe crowd.
Are you sure you understand who's inner rage is being played upon?
I do. My comments above regarding giving up on Roe V Wade are often met with rage from the left because they can't see the big picture.
This is also a personal matter for me because I have known far too many people in my time who use abortion as birth control which I find to be simply awful and immature.
I want to end abortion as an issue and we can do it only if both sides really want to do so. It seems like they don't.
I grow weary of the right and the left arguing about what the other really believes and what their true intentions are. It is pointless to continue to yell about how stupid and idiotic the other side is.
In my heart I am a technocrat: I just want the system to work. I don't give a damn about politics or who wins or who loses, except that I want to see liars, thieves and crooks caught, tried and punished.
The real problem here is that the right has lost important electoral battles recently and is pulling out all the stops to to regain lost ground. They don't care how much they distort the truth or how much they damage the country or the fabric of society because they just want to regain that lost power. In the past misrepresenting the other side's views has worked very well for them, so they continue to do so. Sadly, lying works.
We should be talking about the real issues here, and not railing on about who is dumber than who, or screaming about death panels, or bickering about abortion. Americans just want affordable health care. They just want the economy to get better. They want us to stop fighting pointless foreign wars. They want to make sure the planet is habitable for their grandchildren.
On the face of it, the Republicans' policies have already failed. They defend the status quo -- on the economy, health care, the environment, you name it -- and the status quo already failed miserably for the average American. Their goal is to oppose all progress during the Obama administration, at any cost. This isn't just my opinion of what their intentions are. DeMint and Limbaugh have articulated this explicitly at numerous junctures.
When people who have told us again and again that they'll "do anything to defend this country," and "anything" has included lying in the past (WMDs? Saddam and Al Qaeda?), you can be damn sure it includes lying in the present. The problem is that they are confusing "this country" with "conservative control of this country."
The conservatives are experts at presenting us with false choices: jobs or the environment? Private health care or socialism? They're not content to let their proposals to compete in the marketplace of ideas on their own. They have to dress them up in the direst terms and summon the apocalypse if they don't get their way.
The legislative process used to work this way: one side proposed A, the other side objected and proposed B, and then the two sides worked out some middle ground between A and B that everyone could accept. Now the Republicans say A is communism, socialism and Hell on Earth, and throw kerosene on it and set it on fire. They don't even propose B because proposing B would acknowledge that there was a problem that required solving.
Republicans weren't always like this. They used to try to make things work. I want guys like Barry Goldwater, Dave Durenberger, Gerald Ford and even Dick Nixon (!) back. Where are the reasonable Republicans these days, and why aren't they reigning in the nut jobs?
blk sez In my heart I am a technocrat
Okay, I understand that. I disagree with the concept, but I understand it.
IMO, human society does not fit itself to neat, clean technical solutions - no matter how attractive that idea can be. That you find the political process so distasteful in pursuit of whatever social goals you have only serves to show that you yourself are disconnected from the mass of the country (even that part that is sympathetic to your goals).
Same is true for me. I believe that we should have a much freer, more libertarian country. Unfortunately for my view, all too many people really prefer to be bossed around rather than have to make their own choices. I know I am well outside the mainstream, but I'd rather stay out here than compromise who I am.
In the "marketplace of ideas", "Free shit for everyone!" always wins, regardless of the historical proof of it's fallacy.
The same way that the Lotto is always enduring in it's popularity. Many people simply cannot grasp the fact that there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. You ALWAYS pay, one way or another.
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