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Wednesday, December 02, 2009

Last Night

I was looking for one thing in last night's speech by President Obama regarding our country's new direction in AfPak. This was it.

In the past, we too often defined our relationship with Pakistan narrowly. Those days are over. Moving forward, we are committed to a partnership with Pakistan that is built on a foundation of mutual interests, mutual respect, and mutual trust. We will strengthen Pakistan's capacity to target those groups that threaten our countries, and have made it clear that we cannot tolerate a safe-haven for terrorists whose location is known, and whose intentions are clear. America is also providing substantial resources to support Pakistan's democracy and development. We are the largest international supporter for those Pakistanis displaced by the fighting. And going forward, the Pakistani people must know: America will remain a strong supporter of Pakistan's security and prosperity long after the guns have fallen silent, so that the great potential of its people can be unleashed.

My chief complaint thus far regarding President Obama's policy in AfPak has been relying to heavily on the weak government of Pakistan to go after Al Qaeda. It appears "those days are over. " I fully support the President in this endeavor and think that we will be, by and large, successful now that a more thorough plan for AfPak has been created.

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I fully support the President in this endeavor..."

I am shocked. SHOCKED, I say.

sara said...

And why is that, yet another anonymous poster?

Anonymous said...

"And why is that, yet another anonymous poster?"

Well, titled-but-otherwise-anonymous sara, because Mark has been playing partisan games so hard lately, I can't tell him apart from an eighteen year-old drunk off his ass at a political party.

Every statement and thought coming through from his pie hole has been straight partisanship nonsense. His mentality is downright tribal, relegating everyone to either his side or to the other team.

sara said...

That sounds like a more accurate description of the GOP, not Mark. But that's Play #1A from the playbook:

Jump up and Down Yelling that Liberals are doing exactly what we are doing.

Mark has been critical of President Obama in the past and doesn't share many basic views of liberals/progressives. So, you're shock is quite silly.

Ed "What the" Heckman said...

sara,

"That sounds like a more accurate description of the GOP"

Three words: "The Stupid Party"

Whether or not this phrase rings a bell says a lot about whether or not you've actually paid attention to what conservatives actually say.

Anonymous said...

"Jump up and Down Yelling that Liberals are doing exactly what we are doing."

Apparently you're not familiar with Mark's standard response classification at TSM.

And, no, the deflection doesn't excuse Mark's behavior. How many of you are still running away from every thread or subject he's ignorantly broached and been reprimanded in?

See, that's what amuses me. You can't actually defend his lunatic partisanship - the best you can say is, "WELL YOUR TEAM DOES IT, TOO."

Which is cute, because it shows exactly that you, like Mark, relegate and classify everyone who doesn't side with him into the GOP.

Quite funny. I'd shoot the bastards just as soon as I'd shoot the Democrats.

juris imprudent said...

That sounds like a more accurate description of the GOP, not Mark.

Kiddo, M is just a prime example of a player of that game. Personally I think the GOP pisses him off so much because generally they play it better than he does, not that he doesn't try.

jeff c. said...

What amuses me is this line...

"running away from every thread or subject he's ignorantly broached and been reprimanded in"

as proof that all liberals are (poof!) magically wrong now. What exactly does Mark run away from? He has a blog and puts up 5-7 posts a week, some that are in specific response to items left in comments.

You folks are diggin' deep and not really finding anything.

Anonymous said...

"as proof that all liberals are (poof!) magically wrong now. What exactly does Mark run away from? He has a blog and puts up 5-7 posts a week, some that are in specific response to items left in comments."

You idiot. You fucking, pathetic moron.

Where, in all of that, did I suggest that "liberals are magically wrong now"?

Where?

As for this:
"What exactly does Mark run away from?"

http://smallestminority.blogspot.com

Knock yourself out. 3 years of Mark running away from every thread a fact has ever been presented in.

"You folks are diggin' deep and not really finding anything."

So... where is that corporate use of force?

Anonymous said...

" He has a blog and puts up 5-7 posts a week, some that are in specific response to items left in comments. "


Aaand just to continue - why is it any time he's asked for evidence, he disappears? I note that the comments on the corporate force stand at 68. They stand there since we put them at that count, and not one of you idiots has either the balls or the intellectual honesty to deal with it.

juris imprudent said...

Well, this was just too amusing to not bring up here. More right wing media M? No, that can't be, because these are the Europeans that love us now that we dumped Bush and elected the Obamessiah. Except they aren't fooled as easily as some people. Heck, I won't even bother with The Nation's denunciation of Obama's speech.

sw said...

You folks are diggin' deep and not really finding anything.

??

jeff, until you put at least one example of corporate force in that discussion you may want to refrain from making statements like that. you know what im talking about too. you guys got pwned, just admit it.

Anonymous said...

"You folks are diggin' deep and not really finding anything."

Moreover, digging for what? I didn't even evince (haha! I crack me up) an opinion on the subject of the post itself.

However, Mark saying he supports Obama in an endeavor at this point is about as remarkable as gravity continuing to operate on your everyday skydiver. It's just not surprising, okay?

Mark used to have some semblance of rational thought, or at least he did a better job of faking it. Anymore, he's a blatant partisan hack, garnering and deserving no more respect than I'd give a CNN or Fox news anchor doing campaign reporting.

Why is it he can't point to any written, referable cases of him making these supposedly brilliant arguments for his views and leaving "us conservatives" (I note, too, that because I disagree with Mark or otherwise criticize him that you assume I'm conservative.. more of your bullshit partisan games) speechless and unable to retort?

Juris and I both can point to at least a three year log of him making an ass of himself to such an extent that it's a wonder he can profess his own name with any certainty in fact. Additionally, while it hasn't quite rolled off the page, there's that corporate force post (now 69 comments, up by one due to some [I think] well-deserved baiting) in which Mark and all of you have, for lack of a better term, been schooled in.

Keeping to his pattern, however, he won't re-engage there, and neither will the rest of you. There will be no admission of error, and just as Mark as had his ass lopped off, bagged up, wrapped, and handed back to him with a pretty bow at TSM for trying that Blackwater-as-an-example-of-corporate-force-against-consumers crap before trying it again here (and there, too, to boot), he'll be back at it once again.

He's only "happy to be wrong" when it concerns his "tribe."

So, tell me again, what am I having trouble digging for?

donald said...

I think CNN is more middle of the road these days with MSNBC being a left wing partisan hack and Fox being the right wing partisan hack.

Also, I know for a fact that Mark likes porn so he could never be a hack for the PC nazis on the left.

Anonymous said...

"I think CNN is more middle of the road these days with MSNBC being a left wing partisan hack and Fox being the right wing partisan hack."

Guys, I'm going to give you some help here with the concepts of absolute values, *facts*, and definitions.

It's going to be short, so here goes:

Values and definitions are not relative.

Now, having said that, it's going to go flying over Mark's head, at least, since he can't even define the terms he associates with people.

CNN does not become more "middle of the road" just because another particular station abandons more of the usual pretense of serious bias.

Anonymous said...

Let me rephrase that - values are entirely relative. *Facts* and definitions are not.

juris imprudent said...

I know for a fact that Mark likes porn

I just am NOT going to ask how you know this (other than from what M himself as said). ;-)

M is all about team blue vs. team red. He thrives on it.