Now the Tea Party has showed up down in Madison which means that their list of hypocrisies has grown by yet another item. I'm still shaking my head in bewilderment regarding their name (no one is being taxed without representation) but this latest move demonstrates how completely full of shit they are.
It was my understanding (correct me if I am wrong, please) that their rasion d'etre is less national government and more state government. Each state is left to their own devices to operate as they see fit. Someone from Minnesota, for example, has no business telling someone from Wisconsin what type of government they should have. This would be why I have largely been silent on the issue and let Mr. Waxey make his case. Of course, I'm not a conservative so, as a Democrat, I would still be operating in line with my beliefs if I did try to force my views on the Cheezers.
And I lived there from age 6 to age 18 (with my mom still living there and being directly affected by this bill as a state employee of 32 years) so even with just that I could say something if I wanted. So could Jesse Jackson and all the other folks from the left that have descended on Madison. They could be called meddlesome but not hypocritical.
That badge of honor falls squarely on the chest of the various NATIONAL Tea Party organization and their army of professional protesters. Apparently they have chucked their principles down the toilet and headed off the to the prairie to thump their chests about how evil government is and how blessed (from the Lord himself) we all are to have corporations.
Because that's what this is really all about. Scott Walker is one of many who has been funded by the Koch Brothers. Their vision for America, like Walker's, is one in which everyone works for private companies and workers have zero rights. They knew that their time is now and, with a very base of angry, hateful, and frightened older people, they are attempting to assert their will. I'm sorry...VILL!
Must be nice to have so many true believers. I'm happy, though, that my best friend (since 7th grade) John Waxey is on the case. Hopefully, we will get some more updates soon. He's been down at the capital every day!
UPDATE AND CORRECTION: I was just informed by John Waxey that the union supporters to Tea Partier ratio was 50 to 1 and not 2 to 1. Most of the major media are reporting that the crowd doubled when the Tea Party showed up. I did as well in the first sentence (which I have now corrected) but I wanted to leave a note about it down here as well to say that it was not true.
Do you think the media enjoys divisiveness?
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The TEA Party stands for Taxed Enough Already. Do you know what an acronym is?
Is this where I should make a joke about the Democrats who left the state, thus NOT giving the citizens of WI representation?
But that's not how they got their name. They liken themselves to those folks in the Boston Harbor which, similar to many things in which they believe, are complete fantasies.
You complain about hypocrisy, even while you support the Democrats' efforts to subvert the democratic process and hold the state government and the taxpayers hostage to union greed? In an astroturf campaign orchestrated by the President's fundraising organization?
You do remember President Obama, right? The same President Obama who declined to back the pro-democracy protesters in Iran because it might be seen as meddling in the affairs of the state? He sure doesn't mind meddling in the affairs of the state of Wisconsin, huh?
Remember all the screeching that Democrats, in particular Nancy Pelosi, did about the "astroturfing" when the Tea Party first began?
For all your yap about constantly being at war with your union, here you are in support of forced unionization, with no checks on the power of unions to demand whatever they like and shut down the state if they don't get it.
And you dare to accuse anyone of hypocrisy?
Republicans won the governorship and both state houses, not least based on the promise to do exactly what they're doing. This didn't come as a surprise to anyone.
Wasn't it you who said that the voters make their choice during the election, and the losers can basically just suck it up until they can win control again?
Well suck it up, hypocrite boy.
I guess that makes Joe Klein an extremist, right wing teabagger, huh?
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2011/02/18/wisconsin-the-hemlock-revolution/
Are you talking about the same President Obama who has made one small remark about the bill being anti union and has said nothing since? Where exactly is the meddling, dumb shit?
Don't give me that Rove bullshit either. Mark may not bring it up anymore but attacking your opponents with YOUR greatest weakness won't cut it anymore. Astroturf my ass. The entire Tea Party is one giant corporate welfare machine you fucking moron.
Did you read the post by John Waxey? He's down there, asshole, and it's his life on the line, not yours. Mark has done an excellent job of giving us someone who is on the ground and directly affected by what might happen without any media filters. Now, listen to him and shut your yap, asshole. You might learn something.
Oh, and while we are on the subject of learning...go learn about how much "control" unions actually have in this country.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110219/pl_nm/us_wisconsin_protests
Only 12 percent of U.S. workers were represented by unions in 2010, the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics says. While just 7 percent of private sector workers belonged to unions last year, 36 percent of public workers were organized, the bureau said.
Notice that I gave a fact as opposed to your blithering idiocy about union "power."
I apologize to the rest of you for my outburst but I can only take so much idiocy before I burst and the only the language this moron understands is DICK so...
No apologies necessary, sasquatch. I can see now that when you are dealing with this level of ignorance brought about by irrational anger, it's hard to see any other course of dialog. I don't think I have ever seen anyone more disconnected from reality.
Your Mom became a 'qualified investor' by making her millions as a state employee?
They must have a really good union.
Where exactly is the meddling, dumb shit?
Where the meddling is lies in the orchestration by OFA, Obama's campaign machine, moron.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/17/dnc-expands-mobilization-protests-ohio-indiana_n_824743.html
"Now folded into the Democratic National Committee, Obama's campaign group Organizing For America is already actively engaged in Wisconsin and is beginning to ramp up organizing efforts in Ohio, though observers say the latter process is about a week behind that in Wisconsin. The group is also beginning to dig into Indiana, whose legislature is considering a bill to limit collective bargaining by teachers."
I guess the HuffPo is now a right wing extremist rag bought by the Koch brothers? What a dumbass.
Astroturf my ass.
See above, stupid. Although it's funny how when the Koch brothers do something like this, it's "corporate force". When George Soros or Barack Obama does something just like it, it's "social justice".
...go learn about how much "control" unions actually have in this country.
We weren't talking about the whole country moron, we were talking about Wisconsin. Don't try to change the subject to wiggle out of the consequences of your stupidity.
Is Wisconsin a "right to work" state? No? Then the state cannot legally hire anyone except union labor, right?
Can the taxpayers legally revolt against paying their taxes? No? The the taxpayers cannot legally refuse to pay what is demanded of them, right?
But the union, who no one is allowed to compete against, and no one is allowed to just refuse to pay, has no control? What color is the sky on your planet, stupid?
Did you read the post by John Waxey? He's down there, asshole, and it's his life on the line, not yours.
His life on the line how? So far, all of the threats of violence have come from the union members, no? They are the ones threatening legislators, blocking entrances, showing up on people's lawns and saying "we know where you live".
And what are they protesting against? The fact that if they demand that their pay rises faster than inflation, the taxpayers, who are required by law to foot the bill have to approve it, it's no longer a monopoly. The fact that they have to collect their own union dues, they can no longer demand it be done at government expense. The fact that the union has to be approved every year by those who are forced to be part of it in order to work in public service at all, they can no longer simply demand the entire pie for themselves.
And they're demanding these dictatorial powers in the name of "Freedom and Democracy". How ironic.
Read the fucking bill, stupid.
Did you read the post by John Waxey?...Now, listen to him and shut your yap, asshole.
Yes, I read it. Yes, I listened to him. He's part of the reason I hold the opinion I do. Another part is because I didn't assume (as you apparently do) that his opinion, backed by an admitted vested interest, was automatically unbiased, and certainly not the only one out there.
But apparently because I don't "shut my yap" and just blindly swallow whatever shovelful of bullshit known, long-proven liars like Mark and many of his friends tried to foist off on me, I'm an "asshole."
I'm good with that. I like "asshole" better than "sap", which is obviously my only other choice.
You know what they say about when you assume, huh? What an idiot. My dog is smarter than you, and she's not a very smart dog.
Did you read the post by John Waxey?
Did you?
Did you follow any of the posted links?
If so, then you realize that you're claiming that only the person with a vested interested interest in a particular outcome can be trusted to have the correct take on the whole thing, right? And that the people who cite Milwaukee Public Schools, the Wisconsin Dept. of Workforce Development, Wisconsin's Worknet, the U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics and the actual bill itself are displaying "blithering idiocy"?
This is what you guys demonize as "a pathological fear of government" and "an inability to think critically" when anyone besides you does it, isn't it?
Astroturf my ass.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/statepage?state=WI#blogTop
http://twitter.com/woodhouseb/status/38303551147098112
Perhaps your ass could use some diaper rash cream.
The Smallest Minority
Look for Marxie on your left and down a page or so....
"In your case, there's a couple of years suggesting anything you say or suggest is pure Grade A monkeyshit conjecture."
Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 2:34:46
Are you all the same person, Anonymous? If so, might I suggest that you have become unhinged. The same post at 2 in the morning in 6 separate columns? I don't debate psychotics but if the person who left the long post above at 8:02pm is different than the 2AMm poster, then I will gladly converse.
More lefty hypocrisy on parade. Do you even understand what state's rights are, you blithering idiots? That refers to a state's rights versus the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I didn't realize the many various TEA Party organizations and supporters are an arm of the FEDERAL FREAKING GOVERNMENT. Wow! I learn something new every day in Marxy-World. Too bad it hardly ever has any congruence to the real world, but it's always worth a laugh. :-D
Update and correction
Wow, I didn't think I'd ever see the day. What a refreshing change.
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