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Wednesday, September 19, 2012

On Stiglitz Part Three

Given Mitt Romney's recent comments, I think it's time to get back to Stiglitz. The next section in his book, The Price of Inequality, is called Markets and Inequality. His basic premise here is that even though market forces are real, every law, every regulation and every institutional arrangement has been made to benefit those at the top and to the disadvantage of the rest. Simply put, it is the government's fault! They create the problem by making rules that benefit the wealthy and then they do little to change the fall out.

He faults the government's reaction to the technology boom, for example, as being quite poor when one considers that education at that time should have been shored up in a sort of GI bill type of way. The steel industry, for example, now operates with a quarter of the workforce because of technological advances. What are the remaining three quarters supposed to do now that their services are no longer required? Train for a new profession. Of course, this isn't usually easy and it can be expensive.

That's where the issue of stagnant wages comes in. Stigiliz accurately points out that from 1949 to 1980, productivity and real hourly compensation rose together. After 1980, they began to drift apart. Why? Because the government began to make policies that benefited rent seekers at the top of our society. This is where these two premises
  • Taxing the top at higher rates reduces incentive
  • Helping the poor means more poverty because they then don't want to work
are inaccurate and no longer apply. Because of the large amount of inequality, people have less of incentive to work. They are essentially hopeless so why bother? Stiglitz asks, "How seriously would incentive be weakened if we had a little bit less inequality?" The problem here is that the Straw Man Machine gets to work and labels folks like me and Stiglitz as wanting no inequality. That's simply not true and no one is trying to do that.

Further, incentive pay for wealth execs isn't really that.

Under incentive compensation schemes, pay is supposed to increase with performance. What the bankers did was common practice: when there was a decline in measured performance according to the yardsticks that were supposed to be used to determine compensation, the compensation system changed. The effect was that, in practice, pay was high when performance was good, and pay was high when performance was bad. (Bebhuck and Fried, Pay Without Performance

In fact, they were so embarrassed by this that "performance bonuses" was changed to "retention bonuses." Executives were (and still are) allowed to set their own compensation schedules which has effectively separated pay from performance and misalign incentives, as Stigliz correctly notes.

Countries that have large financial sectors typically have greater inequality. Deregulation along with hidden and open government subsidies distort the economy and make it easier to move money from the bottom to the top. As Stiglitz notes, "We don't have to know precisely the fraction of inequality that should be attributed to the increased financialization of the economy to understand that a change in policy is needed." Indeed. The banks are simply too big right now and need to be broken up. I'm happy to see that many on both the right and the left are calling for this to happen.

recent report by the Congressional Research Service confirms much of the information above.

The results of the analysis suggest that changes over the past 65 years in the top marginal tax rate and the top capital gains tax rate do not appear correlated with economic growth. The reduction in the top tax rates appears to be uncorrelated with saving, investment, and productivity growth. The top tax rates appear to have little or no relation to the size of the economic pie. 

However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution. As measured by IRS data, the share of income accruing to the top 0.1% of U.S. families increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% by 2007 before falling to 9.2% due to the 2007-2009 recession. At the same time, the average tax rate paid by the top 0.1% fell from over 50% in 1945 to about 25% in 2009. Tax policy could have a relation to how the economic pie is sliced—lower top tax rates may be associated with greater income disparities.

I highly recommend reading the entire report. It is loaded down with data that supports Stiglitz's assertions.

The other big part of this chapter is a discussion on the free mobility of capital and the free mobility of labor. It is here where he and I part ways. He rightly criticizes the MNC's and financial institutions for some of the problems they have caused the Global South. However, he completely ignores the fact that the average age of mortality in Africa, for example, has doubled in the last fifty years and it's largely due to Global North investment and direct aid.

He seems to be calling for a return to trade restrictions and tariffs placed on imports that would, in turn, benefit labor in this country. I think that's a giant mistake. We have progressed for the last 70 years towards liberal and free markets. This was done to prevent world wars which were very costly in many ways (the biggest of which is human life). To go back after all the progress we have made in the Global South is very short sighted.

What we can do in the age of free mobility of capital is use that money to further educate our workforce and make the more competitive in the world. Labor around the world is very cheap right now and those without college degrees simply can't compete which is the main reason why we have a large number of people unemployed or underemployed. These people need to get college degrees and that's going to mean sacrifice by everyone...colleges, universities, professors, bankers, and many more of the very wealthy.

All of these people are going to have to step up to the plate, whether it is in the form of lower tuition, lower salaries for professors, higher taxes for the wealthy, or more private grants...A LOT MORE PRIVATE grants. Remember, the 1 percent can't enjoy their money without the support of a strong middle class.

With education, comes strength.

8 comments:

juris imprudent said...

Because of the large amount of inequality, people have less of incentive to work.

Again I have to ask, is that what Stiglitz actually claims? That is as staggeringly stupid as the claim that the poor are all lazy. The irony is that the claim is that fundamentally, incentives don't matter at the top incomes but do at the bottom.

Countries that have large financial sectors typically have greater inequality.

Is this true of Switzerland?

It is loaded down with data that supports Stiglitz's assertions.

Not really. It suggests there might be a correlation - but that does nothing to establish any kind of causation.

These people need to get college degrees

In what? How does having a degree increase the pay of a barrista at Starbucks? How does a college degree make a factory worker more productive vis-a-vis one in another part of the world?

Mark Ward said...

That is as staggeringly stupid as the claim that the poor are all lazy.

Not really if they think that the system is rigged against them. They see their wages going nowhere and they see the people at the top continue to profit from rent seeking and they lose their incentive. Wouldn't you feel the same?

How does a college degree make a factory worker more productive vis-a-vis one in another part of the world?

If you don't have a college degree in America today, you can't get a decent job. It's just that simple. You will spend your days working at that Starbucks. By having a less educated workforce, it makes us less competitive in the world. This ties into our immigration policy as thousands come here for an education and then leave. We need to make it easier for them to stay.

juris imprudent said...

Not really if they think that the system is rigged against them.

So that is your take, not Stiglitz's. It is every bit as stupid as anyone claiming the poor are poor because they are lazy.

If you don't have a college degree in America today, you can't get a decent job.

That isn't because every job really requires a college degree. It is more about a college degree being the equivalent of a HS diploma 2+ generations back.

By having a less educated workforce, it makes us less competitive in the world.

Again, how does that make a factory worker here more competitive to a factory worker in another [low-wage] country? Do you want to compete for the same work, or are you suggesting that we do things that are different - i.e. cede low-wage manufacturing to other countries, and focus on doing things that have a higher value?

Mark Ward said...

Actually, it's both of our takes. Have you read the book yet, juris?

are you suggesting that we do things that are different - i.e. cede low-wage manufacturing to other countries, and focus on doing things that have a higher value?

To a certain extent, I am. Eventually, however, those lower wage laborers will demand more money and things will even out. That's how the market for labor works.

I'm simply saying that if we have more people with college degrees, we are going to increase our capability to innovate and create products and services that will be in high demand.

juris imprudent said...

Have you read the book yet, juris?

No, but I may borrow a copy from the library this weekend.

To a certain extent, I am.

Congratulations, you just embraced David Ricardo's theory of comparative advantage. Krugman's real economics work was in trade theory - shame he doesn't think like that anymore.

I'm simply saying that if we have more people with college degrees, we are going to increase our capability to innovate and create products and services that will be in high demand.

That depends a great deal on what people get a college degree in. Many programs have almost zero value in the marketplace, as so many disillusioned young people have found (and compounded by the burden of debt - because everyone told them that a COLLEGE DEGREE was the guarantee of a sunny future).

Now, I expect that you will NOT in the future bemoan the loss of employment in the manufacturing sector - because you just stepped to the side that says that is not the source of all value/wealth in the economy. I do rather imagine that you won't - and that you will embrace some vapid position because it resonates with your emotional outlook.

Chairman Meow said...

College degrees in what, Mark? A majority of the students who do get to college can't hack the math of an engineering or hard sciences degree. I don't believe that even if we had the best K-12 system in the world, most college students could hack the math of a STEM degree that hasn't been watered down to the point of uselessness. And to be honest, many degrees are useless, and many jobs that currently require college degrees don't really need college-level training to perform. It's just an easy way for HR departments to cover their asses from discrimination and bias lawsuits. The social "sciences", particularly the various "studies" "degrees" are among the most worthless sinks of time, effort, and money out there. "Education" "degrees" at least have some economic value since they are pretty much a prerequisite to teach at primary at and secondary level. Whether they should be is an entirely different issue.

Mark Ward said...

It doesn't have to be a traditional, four year degree. Technical schools, community colleges, some sort of trade school is fine for those folks who can't hack the math.

juris imprudent said...

It doesn't have to be a traditional, four year degree.

That is exactly what a college degree is. So apparently a college degree isn't the answer you just touted it to be.