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Friday, March 07, 2014

Good (?) Words

“We fear for the safety of our families. It’s why neighborhood streets that were once filled with bicycles and skateboards and laughter in the air, now sit empty and silent … [For] the things we care about most, we feel profound loss. We’re sad, not because we fear something is going wrong, but because we know something already has gone wrong. That’s why more Americans are buying firearms and ammunition.

The greatest freedom is to have the ability to have all the rifles, shotguns and handguns we want.”

(Wayne LaPierre, at the CPAC Conference, March 6, 2014)

My oh my…Appeal to Fear much?

I don't get it. I thought violence was going down. So why is the Gun Cult still afraid? And why are they lying? Neighborhood streets are not empty and silent and are, in fact, filled with bicycles and skateboards and laughter in the air. What a bunch of hysterical old ladies!

20 comments:

GuardDuck said...

Wow - way to pull quotes out, rearrange them - and come up with something different than you started with.

Dishonesty Mark. That's what you call the way you edited that quote.

Mark Ward said...

This would be the part where you explain what he "really" meant:)

GuardDuck said...

Well, you could start by reading the entire transcript unedited and if you have any reasonable level of reading comprehension - it would be abundantly clear.


If you can't do that, trying to explain what was said in plain language, using more plain language to explain it would probably be folly.

Mark Ward said...

And what do you think he means based on the entire transcript? Where did I go wrong?

GuardDuck said...

Well the entire transcript was not about being afraid of anything related to 'violence going down'.

Again, if you aren't capable of reading plain language I can't help you by explaining it in more plain language.

Juris Imprudent said...

Where did I go wrong?

The part where you re-arranged the words to fit the narrative that is burned into your brain.

You see, you refuse to process any fact or observation that does not fit into your pre-existing thought pattern. Orwell talked about you, no really, he talked EXACTLY about YOU.

Mark Ward said...

Neither of you are adequately explaining what he really meant. Forget about me. What was his overall message? What do these words mean to you? You can't just say what it didn't mean.

GuardDuck said...

For fucks sake Mark - THE TRANSCRIPT IS FUCKING PLAIN, EASY TO READ LANGUAGE. I WILL NOT HUMOR YOU IF YOU ARE TOO FUCKING IDIOTIC TO READ AND COMPREHEND WHAT ANY SEMI-LITERATE MORON SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND.

Juris Imprudent said...

What do these words mean to you?

Language is used to convey meaning. That apparently is a foreign concept to you. It isn't a matter of me deciding what I think it means - the use of language means he said something that has meaning. This really isn't cryptic.

I guess you just use words to sort of express some emotional state that you are in at that moment (or to reaffirm your tribal identity). Which does explain why you can so easily contradict yourself in such short spans of time. I think you honestly don't remember and since that moment is past it no longer matters.

Mark Ward said...

GD, I did read it and offered my interpretation and highlighted the parts that I found truly nauseating. If you don't agree with what I wrote, explain why and offer what you think is a more accurate interpretation.

I don't understand why two "rugged individualists" wants everyone to think and interpret the exact same way.

GuardDuck said...

You cut and spliced - took some words and put them in different places and different order.

That's not an interpretation. That's deceit.


And juris is correct - there is only one meaning to what he said - it is exactly what he wants to say. There is no 'interpretation' to it.


Either you read the entire transcript and lied when you created the false bullshit you spewed up above. Or you are too illiterate to read and comprehend plain language.

Juris Imprudent said...

It is just too ironic that M's entire argument here is what he screamed so loudly about in the original post... an appeal to fear.

Mark Ward said...

there is only one meaning to what he said

And that is...?

it is exactly what he wants to say

What does that even mean?

Here is the transcript of this year's speech..

http://home.nra.org/pdf/waynelapierre_140306.pdf

I could have used this...

We know that, sooner or later, reckless government actions and
policies have consequences. That when government corrupts the truth
and breaks faith with the American people, the entire fabric of our
society — everything we believe in and count on — is in jeopardy.


Or this one...

The IRS is now a weapon. A weapon to punish anyone who disagrees
with them, and that means every one of you.


Or this one...

We know, in the world that surrounds us, there are terrorists and
home invaders and drug cartels and car-jackers and knock-out gamers
and rapers, haters, campus killers, airport killers, shopping mall killers,
road-rage killers, and killers who scheme to destroy our country
with massive storms of violence against our power grids, or vicious
waves of chemicals or disease that could collapse the society
that sustains us all


but it would have been redundant. And you guys are accusing me of appeal to fear? I suppose that's just about right:)

Compare his speech to last year's speech..

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/15/cpac-nra-wayne-lapierres-full-speech/

As I said, the same old garbage....fear, hate, anger, shit your pants....rinse, repeat...

The streets are not empty, GD. His image of America today is pure fantasy. Ironically he and the rest of the Gun Cult contradict themselves when they point to declining violence. So, which is it...empty streets because people are afraid? Or safer due to the statistics? Or something else?

I think your reticence to comment on this further more or less shows just how fucking embarrassed you are by this hysterical and irrational mentality. You can't seriously call yourself a man of logic and reason and go along with this drivel.

GuardDuck said...

they point to declining violence. So, which is it...empty streets because people are afraid? Or safer due to the statistics? Or something else?

And there you go again. It's almost like you didn't read it - just skimmed it for quotes you could use.


My reticence to point out to you what he said is simply this: you either know exactly what he said and are being a dishonest, lying jerk here - or you are illiterate and incapable of the level of reading comprehension expected of a semi-moron.

I really don't think you are a semi-literate moron. That leaves you being a lying jerk.

I'm not going to play your lying jerk game.


On the other hand, the more you claim to 'know' what he said, the more you do actually look like a semi-literate moron.

Mark Ward said...

I don't think I've ever seen you duck and weave so much, GD. What was LaPierre's point? If there is only one right answer, what is it?

I actually think the entire speech from both this year and last year should be read over and over again and continually published unedited. There is a treasure trove of moonbattery in there for the Democrats and other sensible people to use to combat the Gun Cult.

Juris Imprudent said...

As I said, the same old garbage....fear, hate, anger, shit your pants....rinse, repeat...

Yes that is your M.O. - is there another point you would like to make?

Juris Imprudent said...

His image of America today is pure fantasy.

How is that any more a fantasy than your fear mongering about everyone that owns a gun?

Hmmm?

GuardDuck said...

Remember this: "I don't get it. I thought violence was going down. So why is the Gun Cult still afraid?"


Those are your words. Shall we analyze what you are saying here? What you are saying by cutting, pasting and lying? You are saying that LaPierre's speech was fear mongering about violence - and you smugly point out that violence is going down....

That's what you claim to be the point.

So let's analyze the actual speech.


72 sentences.

How much of that speech mentions anything remotely resembling fear of violence?

Two. Just two sentences. 2% of the sentences have anything whatsoever to do with what you dishonestly lied and warped your cut and paste hack job to make it look like.


You accuse me of ducking a weaving? How about this - I will not play dishonesty games with a liar. (That's you by the way - in case you truly are illiterate.)

You are a lying, deceitful piece of work - and I won't play that game with you. I don't need to tell you what the point of the speech is. It's obvious to anyone who can read. Playing the he said/she said game with you would legitimize your deceit.

Mark Ward said...

It's obvious to anyone who can read.

Yes it is.

Why would I have to lie when guys like LaPierre do so well supporting my assertions by simply opening their mouths? It's not my fault they are embarrassing you. Maybe you need better spokesmodels:)

GuardDuck said...

Was that some version of 'la-la-la-la I can't hear you', or was it 'I know you are, what am I'?