We hear quite a bit about how the majority of America hates the new health care law. What we don't see is why they hate it. Now we have a poll that confirms what I have thought all along: people wanted more.
A new AP poll finds that Americans who think the law should have done more outnumber those who think the government should stay out of health care by 2-to-1
Really?
The poll found that about four in 10 adults think the new law did not go far enough to change the health care system, regardless of whether they support the law, oppose it or remain neutral.
Interesting. So the next time I have a blowhard yelling in my face about how America hates "Obamacare" I can point them to this poll?
You're damn right I will. And it gets even better.
Those numbers are no endorsement for Obama's plan, but the survey also found a deep-seated desire for change that could pose a problem for Republicans. Only 25 percent in the poll said minimal tinkering would suffice for the health care system.
Republicans "are going to have to contend with the 75 percent who want substantial changes in the system," said Stanford political science professor Jon Krosnick, who directed the university's participation.
Running on repeal plays well to the base but how well it will play to the general population is completely different animal.
And this
"I think it's a Trojan horse," Braley said of the health care law. "It's a communist, socialist scheme. All the other countries that have tried this, they're billions in debt, and they admit this doesn't work."
isn't going to cut it when you take a look at these poll numbers. Or facts, for that matter. How's Germany doing these days?
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I told you on here why Germany is doing well. It isn't because they have a universal health care system, they're doing well despite the fact that they have a universal healthcare system.
Instead of pointing them to a meaningless poll, try pointing them to the policy successes.
But they still have one and they aren't collapsing. I agree that we could follow Merkel's lead and restrain spending. But, remember, they have the added bonus of more revenue from taxes.
"Bonus"?
Who is that a bonus for? The headquarters of the company I work for or German politicians?
Government taking more money from the private sector = bonus. Gotcha.
What I mean is that the German income tax rate is higher than our tax rate. They don't have to worry about revenue/deficits because they have more of it coming in. Now, our corporate tax rate is a little higher than their tax rate but not by much.
In addition, this
"Government taking more money from the private sector"
is silly. Considering how the private sector just got bailed out by all of us after all of their foolishness and greed, this pathological drive against government makes no sense.
Bonus indeed when you a practitioner of the politics of envy. M has bitched repeatedly about people who have more than he does. Naturally he wants the power of the state to level that out (without him doing more to improve his own condition).
Never mind that there was a principled opposition - any opposition is reduced to caricature. Now he can claim it's POPULAR and therefore right.
"The private sector" does not mean "companies that were bailed out". In other words, it includes more than Goldman Sachs, AIG and General Motors. Those voices told you I was talking about AIG and not small businesses didn't they? Debate what I actually type on here and don't insert the 2 words "Goldman Sachs" wherever you read the 2 words "private sector".
Juris, you know I love you but you are full of crap. I'm done coddling people who are overly sensitive to the government. This would be why we have the problems we have now. I don't worship or envy people who have more money than I do. At the same time, I don't want the state to have the power that they do in China or Venezuela. Centrally planned economies will fail every single time along with increased human rights abuses. There's a large difference between President Obama and Hugo Chavez. Stop making it smaller because of your emotional reaction to "THE STATE" (cue Universal Horror music).
And please stop painting me as something I am not. If you want to prop up an example of a personality type who worships money and thinks that a CEO who makes 500 times what his employees make is Jesus Christ, there are plenty out there. Guess who they vote for?
What I do want is a government that actually regulates the private sector. We are starting to have that again and, as our history clearly shows us, it works. What we have now is so tremendously whacked that your comment betrays complete ignorance of a very serious problem. It's a knee jerk reaction that defines a fantasy.
Last, the financial sector (sadly) is the private sector. Had those companies not been bailed out, you and I would be having a much different debate right now. As I have said many times, were it not for the spirit of FDR, you would not have been able to withdraw money from your local ATM. The fact is, dude, that the government does a better job with your money than some butt hole on Wall Street that wants to use it to leverage unreality. Why you can't see this now after all of this is simply stunning.
The financial sector is only one part of the private sector.
Oh, and nice choice you gave me - government or wall street. Is it really that black and white? How about I choose neither?
And please stop painting me as something I am not.
I am only calling it as I see it. You have repeatedly posted screeds reeking of envy.
I won't mention it if you don't post it.
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