We begin with a comment from blk.
The genius of the right is its ability to convince people to go along with them in direct conflict to their own best interests. This is usually done by dredging up some unrelated hot button issue, linking the two and then get people to support something that will directly harm them.
This is unequivocally true. Unless someone is making an ass load of money, the current form of the GOP is basically about making certain private industry continues to rape the shit out of people financially who, in turn, thank them for it. Never is this more true that with an issue like health care, for example.
Next we have this comment from just dave.
Quick, quick, BLK, what are 'My' best interests? Or my interests in general, for that matter... Therein lies part of the problem…contrary to popular liberal belief, I rather feel that I am more attuned to what is or is not in my best interests than you.
At first glance, it would seem that dave has a point. Why should someone else tell him his best interest? If he wants to stand in front of a oncoming train and be smashed, what of it? At closer inspection, however, we can see how misconceptions regarding liberals come up. It's not that liberals want to tell dave what his best interests are...it's that it's terribly obvious what they are and, if dave were logical and looked at facts, he would follow them. If we see dave standing in front of an oncoming train, I think we can all agree that it is in his best interest to move. We won't tell him to move...he may not move...but it is in his best interest to move out of the way. So, blk's statement is one of fact.
Knowing dave the way I do, he believes that our government should only be funding defense and minor amounts of infrastructure. In other words, social programs such as health care are not good. dave believes that the free market can sort out this health care boondoggle and the government is going to only screw things up more than they already are. In fact, if you were to ask dave which of these phrases are more likely to occur...
The Federal Government can solve much of the health care crisis.
The Federal Government will create death panels and pull the plug on Grandma.
...he would, more than likely, choose the latter. Am I right, dave?
dave, like many on the right, has fallen victim to The Cult. He has withdrawn into the group and has quickly shown that he distrusts the outside world--most of which he considers to be ultra liberal. He is convinced that liberals manage his life in an extremely totalitarian way. Remember the cult has a pathological hated of government while also having a 12 year school girl crush (see: the Twilight series) on private corporations. Call them on it and you are a Marxist! How dare you say ANYTHING bad about US corporations!! They are wonderful...they are pure...they are beautiful.
So, then we get comments like this
That Mark thinks there is any answer other than, "your best interests are those you deem to be so" is... revealing.
Yes, it is revealing...revealing in the sense that we can see the excellent work that The Cult has done. In their eyes, we should all be "rugged individualists" who account to no one and, FUCK YOU!, we can do whatever we want. So, in addition to being 12 year old girls with crushes on the corporations of America, they are also 8 year old boys who are self involved to a fault. The problem with this attitude is that we live in something called a...society.
If dave decides to not have health insurance, for example, that affects me through rate increases due to a diminished pool of insurees and hospital bills that someone will have to pay if dave gets sick. Again, that someone is me.
So, dave's actions regarding his "best interests" regarding health care affect the rest of us. He is not an island. He is a participating member of US culture. I'm not sure how much dave makes a year but if he is like most people, he will get a tax cut due to President Obama's policies. And yet, he does not support him because he has been convinced by the Cult that Obama is raising his taxes and forcing him to...well...do what exactly?
At the end of the day, this whole line of thought from dave and anonymous comes down to a child like tantrum. They don't like the rules we have in our culture that have created collectivity or a community. Because, as well know, the word "community" is pretty darn close to that other "C" word and that would lead to this:
