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Tuesday, October 28, 2008

There Goes The Fear

I wasn't quite sure what to write about this week...been feeling under the weather the last couple of days. But then I got this email, from a conservative fan, which perfectly illustrates the meltdown of the conservative hard drive.

How can you vote for this???? This goes against everything you have ever told me about your want for the strength of this country???
Just curious. I have probably opened up a can of worms but I am at a loss.

Subject: Fw: This Will Scare You

PLEASE READ COMPLETELY!!!
This doesn't scare me - It horrifies, terrifies and pisses me Off!!!!!!!! As I have told many of my friends, how can we elect a president who doesn't LIKE the USA!!!!
No wonder he's got the endorsement of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran & the Nation of Islam!
Subject: This Will Scare You

Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get 'the picture'. The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 'Meet The Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!! Yeah......the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!! Must say that I'm dually impressed..................

From Sunday's Televised '
Meet the Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

The General also stated to the Senator that according to the
United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, 'Stand and Face It'

Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song '
I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice. My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine'. Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America.

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be our next President.

I, for one, am speechless.

Dale Lindsborg,
Washington Post

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Here was my email back...


The email you have sent me is a lie. It is yet another example of the right wing hate and propaganda machine spreading falsehoods about Senator Obama. In fact, that is all the current form of the Republican Party seems to be about these days, which I find to be very sad. They are playing to your fear, ...a fear that is completely unfounded in reality.

Here is an explanation of the lie.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp

I think you need to take a very critical look at the people you have supported over your life and question them. For whatever reason, you believe their lies continually and adhere to an outdated and ignorant belief system that is not grounded on ability or intellect but fervent ideology....an ideology that has very nearly destroyed our country. You told me in 2000 and 2004 that Bush would make things better and keep us safe. Take a look at where we are now. As I have predicted, we are hated more than ever in the world, the people responsible for 9-11 are still alive and flourishing, our infrastructure is crumbling, we have health care system that is awful, education system that leaves everyone behind, and an economy that is doing about as well as all the companies that Bush ran before he became president....poor.

They really haven't helped you out. In fact, they have hurt your life personally. You should pass this on to your co-workers. One of the main reasons why the housing market and financial services industry are so screwed up right now is because many Republican Senators, including John McCain, overturned the Glass Steagall Act of 1933 with the passage of Graham Leach Bliley in 1999. President Clinton signed this bill so he is also to blame. The one item that has been kept alive from Glass Steagall is FDIC.

Bottom line, if it weren't for the spirit of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, you may not be able to get money out of your bank right now. Think about that when you vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin next Tuesday, a man who had a hand in personally causing you financial distress and a woman who is the most under qualified person ever to be nominated as vice president let alone president. Think about the fact that a man, FDR, who acted much further towards socialism than Senator Obama ever will, had the foresight, knowledge, and business savvy to keep all of our money protected.

Mark

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I am reminded of a robot, from a 1950s Sci Fi film, that is malfunctioning.


EEP! Blurp! Obama-terrorist- EEp-Endorsed by Hamas-EEP-quark-Wants to burn us all in the pits of hell-eep-blurp--ignore unpleasant factsies--eeep--spit---your eyes deceive you--eep--obama will destroy us all--eep---Obama will destroy---urp--Obama will--eerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Thank God, someone is about to shut that fucking thing off so we can actually start solving problems in this country as opposed to placating a fervent ideology that actually adds to them

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is very sad that someone would believe this. We certainly have much work to do in the next four years.

Anonymous said...

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Story?id=6099188&page=1

Anonymous said...

We certainly have much work to do in the next four years.

Re-education camps?

I hate to break this to you, but people really do have the right to be stupid. And stupid people do get to vote. Not much you can do about that. Unless...

Mark Ward said...

Juris, we are about to embark on the biggest home improvement project since WWII. That turned out pretty well. Are you going to pitch in?

Anon and SW, regarding the Michael Malone article...Yes, I did read the whole thing and he is full of crap. The MSM is owned by corporations and thus, part of your beloved free market. They are interested in what sells. Wright and Ayers have been all over the TV constantly. They are on talk radio every day. I really can't understand what you are bitching about.

Conservative media are a large chunk of our information outlets..in their case disinformation and propaganda (most effective campaign since Goebbels). The fact is that there just isn't that much to these stories that are floating out there. They represent extremist viewpoints that make giant mountains out of molehills.

Yet they ARE out there and many people believe them in abundance. So...they are getting information, such as the email I listed, and believing every word about it. Basically what I am saying is...quite your bitching...your message is believed by around 50 million Americans.

Anonymous said...

Ya know M, when you toss around references to Goebbels that are in my opinion baseless and clueless, no, I don't want to "pitch in".

And given that there may be others with reasons better or worse then mine for not pitching in - what do you think should be done about that?

sara's allusion was chilling enough; your's is no more comforting at all.

Mark Ward said...

Well, juris, you brought up the re-education camps first.

Seriously, though, look at how the Nazis gained power in the 1930s, the tactics they used to control how people thought, and the language they used. Now compare it to the Republican Party, in its current form, and pundits. See any similarities?

Dan said...

Juris, you are completely within your rights to do nothing.

However, your frankly chilling assessment of both Sara's and Mark's comments is groundless. Re-education camps? C'mon, that's just plain silly. How the hell could you extrapolate that from what she posted? Why help to spread the right-wing fear mongering any longer? Is that all you guys are any good at anymore?

Sara is correct, we, as a nation, have a lot of work ahead of us to make this country better. Our current President and his gang of thugs have wrought many ills on this society, and we as a nation will respond to the call of change for the better.

Maybe a Dylan quote is called for here;
"Your old road is rapidly fading,
Get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand,
'Cause the times they are a changin'."

You don't have to do a damn thing, but get the hell out of the way.

Anonymous said...

Love the Dylan quote. True. jt.

Anonymous said...

Dan I don't suppose you see the contradiction in your first and last statements. If I do nothing, I stand where I am - which you are telling me is in the way.

"Well, which is it young feller - you want us to freeze or get down on the ground?" -- bank customer in Raising Arizona

That's the trouble with 'wingers - they're always going round in circles. Some to the left and some to the right.

Anonymous said...

Hey M, here's a thought experiment for you. Instead of "rich people", substitute "jew", or instead of "Republican" say "communist" - and then tell me who YOU sound like.

Sheesh. And I'm still appalled that none of you are appalled at the notion of re-education, be it in camps or otherwise. Fuck your totalitarian ambitions for 'change'.

Mark Ward said...

It's not "rich" people per se, juris, it's the power that they have and how they use it. I am all for being successful in this country and making a fortune. When you use that fortune to purposefully fuck people over in order to gain more power and influence, that's where I throw the yellow flag.

Anonymous said...

When you use that fortune to purposefully fuck people over in order to gain more power and influence

So, got any names there M, or is this just a general gut feeling? How precisely do you identify the evil rich from the kindly rich?