Continuing on with the email forward I received from a friend.
Scenario:
Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car
and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1958 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal,
goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2008 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse.
Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang.
State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers
being abused herself and their dad goes to prison.
Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.
Actually, what 1958 should read is this:
Billy has a wide variety of mental and emotional issues related to the physical abuse his dad inflicted on him, fails to go to college or land a decent job, and grows up to abuse his own kids because that's WHAT ACTUALLY FUCKING HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD AS OPPOSED TO NEVER NEVER LAND!!!
The person who wrote this email clearly has never spent any time with abused children or adults and is completely lacking in any sort of knowledge of even rudimentary psychology and behavior development. To them, these fields are probably just "more liberal bullshit" which is quite apparent in their view of 2008. What a bunch of over exaggerated nonsense.
In addition, what's with the violence thing again? Seriously, I honestly think that people that view the world this way get off on beatings and death. It reminds me of the time I watched the Passion of the Christ a few years back. I was with some friends of mine who are very right wing Christians and, for many of them, it was their third or fourth time! Honestly, I could only watch Jesus Christ being beaten and mutilated once. It was sad and nauseating. They didn't seem to mind, though, as they were over taken by emotion and, strangely, almost seemed to enjoy it.
Put that together with how they seem to always have to find an enemy to blow up somewhere and it really makes you wonder. Maybe they might fit in just fine in Iran or Saudi Arabia.
9 comments:
M, you are spouting the liberal "all violence is wrong" nonsense.
There is appropriate violence, and inappropriate violence. If you don't agree with that, I won't bother continuing because we really do see the world differently - I realistically and you through rose colored glasses! ;-)
Of course I think there is a time and a place for violence. Israel understands this better than any country.
But a whipping with a belt for breaking a car window? How about the kid pays or repairs the window himself, washes his car all summer, changes the oil, checks the tires and is basically the car's bitch for six months? He would then reach what we call in education an enduring understanding:)
Good, I didn't think you'd go the "all violence is wrong" route.
However, there is a difference between what I said and what you said. I would say that it isn't just a matter of the right time and place, it is a matter of what is appropriate and what is not.
Two or three swats with a belt on the backside isn't what I think of when I hear "a whipping". That word tends to conjure an image of many strikes delivered indiscriminately, and from someone more into releasing anger then administering discipline.
Your suggestions might be appropriate - depends on the kid and a context that isn't described in the little scenario. The funny thing is, that as much as you think the '2008' is exaggerated - you yourself are quick to exaggerate. Maybe there's a lesson there?
Poor Billy. What if his Dad gave him a whipping with a belt on a regular basis, and for once the bruises cleared up enough go to out and play ball with the neighborhood kids. When the window was accidentally broken, probably by some other kid, they all ran away, but Billy froze. And got caught. And got the 74th beating of his life. He supressed his grief at lost childhood, and the rage, grew up to go to college and date rape women and steal from fraternity brothers, then became a businessman who was ultimately frightened of failure, and fail he did. Which enraged and saddened him further. Then he lived out his days in a flophouse and died alone.
Now that is what would really happen!
In what fucking world?
And y'all have the audacity to say that conservatives have a warped view of life? Sheesh - what's that saying about motes and beams?
Hey Mr. Juris, I'm not conservative or liberal. I have a recently acquired burst of creative talent and put it to use in my above post.
BTW, you aren't BobbyB are you?
well jane, I'm not a conservative or a liberal either, nor am I BobbyB [whoever the hell he is]
I still find your take to be warped, unless you just meant it as an off the wall snark.
So I'm curious, how do you acquire a burst of creative talent?
I did just mean it as off the wall snark. :)
I got the burst of talent by... well, I'm not sure EXACTLY but I've been in psychotherapy that, with this therapist, is very much like psychoanalysis, so I pay a lot of attention to dreams, have starting drawing, baking a lot, writing food reviews... so as I've been feeling better, I noticed I've been way more creative in the past several months.
Bobby B is this articulate guy who used to comment on this other website, and you kinda reminded me of him. I think he's a lawyer, so your handle seemed to fit.
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