There's no irony if I see it as an accurate reflection of myself. I would rather tell the truth and be ridiculed than face myself after doing things like playing the cult of both sides.
Unless, of course, you find irony with the Frederick Douglas compareion and d view him as negatively as you do me:)
Being true to yourself was the essential point of this quote. I don't mind being ridiculed at all although it's pretty light stuff when you consider how far in the minority and out of reality YOU guys are.
What convictions? Haven't you always proudly proclaimed your pragmatism - your devotion only to what works? You even conceded that you had changed your mind about guns - and now you've changed back.
Changing your tune to fit the occasion? That doesn't speak to much sense of conviction.
Haven't you always proudly proclaimed your pragmatism - your devotion only to what works?
Ironically, when I was researching the definition of Fascism for the recent thread, I found a lot of disagreement about what that definition is. But there two areas of agreement.
1) The state is central.
"Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State." — Benito Mussolini
2) It's very pragmatic, which is why it's hard to define.
Fascist ideology was vague and protean. This is a source of endless frustration to those who expect to find a coherent definition of fascism in the the writings of party “philosophers”. But it reflects nothing more than fascism’s pragmatic approach to attaining its goals and its unwillingness to be bound (like its predecessors) to failed dogmas. Like all popular movements, fascism tried to encapsulate ideology in terse slogans – “Believe, Obey, Fight”, “Strength through joy”, “Work makes you free.” — Fascism—The Ultimate Definition
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Irony, I really do love irony.
It's not ironic which is actually why I put it up.
Oh, it was quite ironic - and unintended irony is the best of all.
There's no irony if I see it as an accurate reflection of myself. I would rather tell the truth and be ridiculed than face myself after doing things like playing the cult of both sides.
Unless, of course, you find irony with the Frederick Douglas compareion and d view him as negatively as you do me:)
Mark, the irony is that you are true to yourself, but not true to reality because you put yourself above reality.
Being true to yourself was the essential point of this quote. I don't mind being ridiculed at all although it's pretty light stuff when you consider how far in the minority and out of reality YOU guys are.
If you say so, Markafallacy.
if I see it as an accurate reflection of myself.
That of course is the root of the irony - what you perceive of yourself being so at odds with the reality of yourself.
Seriously.
Well, juris, how is this not myself? You guys ridicule me all the time but I don't really care. I'm true to my convictions.
I'm true to my convictions.
What convictions? Haven't you always proudly proclaimed your pragmatism - your devotion only to what works? You even conceded that you had changed your mind about guns - and now you've changed back.
Changing your tune to fit the occasion? That doesn't speak to much sense of conviction.
Haven't you always proudly proclaimed your pragmatism - your devotion only to what works?
Ironically, when I was researching the definition of Fascism for the recent thread, I found a lot of disagreement about what that definition is. But there two areas of agreement.
1) The state is central.
"Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
— Benito Mussolini
2) It's very pragmatic, which is why it's hard to define.
Fascist ideology was vague and protean. This is a source of endless frustration to those who expect to find a coherent definition of fascism in the the writings of party “philosophers”. But it reflects nothing more than fascism’s pragmatic approach to attaining its goals and its unwillingness to be bound (like its predecessors) to failed dogmas. Like all popular movements, fascism tried to encapsulate ideology in terse slogans – “Believe, Obey, Fight”, “Strength through joy”, “Work makes you free.”
— Fascism—The Ultimate Definition
So, one day I'm a Marxist and the next I'm a fascist. I wish you guys would make up your minds:)
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