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Saturday, February 07, 2015

Red State Whining

I've put this map up before but I've had a few requests via email to put it up again. The states in red represent who gets the most government handouts and the states in blue represent who gets the least. Ironic that the states that bitch the most about the federal government get the most money. Regardless of their whining, as a resident of the state of Minnesota, I'm happy that more of my share of tax dollars help people out in these states. Why?

Because I'm a grown up:)



4 comments:

GuardDuck said...

Well, surprise surprise - No link to your source.....again.

Luckily I found it. Guess what - your description of what the map represents ins not what the actual map represents.


The maps DOES NOT represent, as you say - "who gets the most government handouts and ...who gets the least"

It represents, and I quote from the source "the geographical distribution of households that pay no income tax", "looking only at the percentages of households filing a return and don't account for the "non-filers.""


Dishonest, incompetent and ideologically blinded - that's how you should tag your posts.

Mark Ward said...

Thanks for the heads up on the link, GD. I meant to put it in the post and forgot. It's in there now.

I'll leave the rest of your comment to those zillions of readers who read my comments section and perhaps have trouble interpreting data. Perhaps you can steer them on the right path in an explanation of where those states get their money if they pay no taxes:)

juris imprudent said...

Dishonest, incompetent and ideologically blinded - that's how you should tag your posts.

Wouldn't he have to be honest, competent and just a little open-minded to do that?

GuardDuck said...

Wow.

Link to the source does not mean link to a page that uses the graphic that they stole from the source.....


Source:

States Vary Widely in Number of Tax Filers with No Income Tax Liability

Of course, if you had actually went to the source you would have found out that this graphic is out of date. Here is the most recent graphic:

Monday Map: Nonpayers By State


zillions of readers who read my comments section and perhaps have trouble interpreting data.

Do you mean those readers who have more or less trouble interpreting data than you do?


Let's first look at what we are looking at:

This is a look at the percentage of FILERS who have no FEDERAL tax liability. That data has no bearing on where or what each state receives in federal tax money.

What is says is exactly what it says. The rate of filers who have no federal tax liability. Now, generally what that means is that those filers have sufficient deductions and/or credits with low enough income levels so that they owe no federal tax.

Last time I looked, federal tax rates are not different for different states. And as you probably know costs of living are different in different areas. For example a person working for $10/hr. in one particular area may be able to afford food and rent while this may be impossible in a different area.

Peruse these maps:

The Real Value of $100 in Each State

The Real Value of $100 in Metropolitan Areas

Wow, it's almost like in particular areas that have lower tax liabilities they also have lower costs of living.... Funny that. It's almost like that in order to live in an expensive state, one must make enough money that they will almost be guaranteed to have federal tax liability. While a lower cost of living correlates with lower incomes which correlates with lower rates of taxes - including zero tax liabilities.... Strange.

Now on a second point - your wackadoodle freaking out about this graphic. Let's look at it without the bowel blowing partisanship shall we?

The lowest percentage of non-filers is 21% and the highest is 45%. Granted that is more than double the rate between the highest and lowest. But the number 25 state on the list, Nevada, comes in at 35%. That's a lot closer to the highest side than it is to the lowest.

Another way to look at it is to compare the actual numbers of payers among those top and bottom ten to get some perspective.

The ten states with the highest percentage of people with no liability have 21,352,929 people who do have liability.

The bottom ten: 13,748,717

Hmmm. Those states that you are claiming to suck off the federal teat seem to have more actual people paying into the system. By almost double.