If there is one word that can sum up the words and actions of a liberal/progressive/Democratic individual, it would be this one: Insecurity. This is the one thing that drives them more than anything else. Why?
Because of the election of 2004. The Dems still can't figure out how Bush won the election. It makes no sense. How could such a large group of people support someone clearly not competent to be president? More importantly, how could a guy who served his country in the military suddenly be looked upon as a traitor?
Reality ceased making sense for Democrats after that. It certainly did for me. More confounding is the simple fact that it's gotten worse. Compare George W Bush, for example, to Sarah Palin. Or Christine O'Donnell. I wouldn't be surprised at all if a resurrected Colonel Flagg become the GOP nominee in 2012. So, rather than try to get a public option in the health care bill (which, at one point 70 percent of Americans supported) or solidify taxes, the Democrats back down. It's a constant fear of losing.
Insecurity would also be why the left spends so much time focusing on what the right says and does. The fear of that many people (the conservative base) obeying a collection of individuals (the GOP leaders and now the Tea Party) who so clearly act against their best interests is overwhelming....so much so that inaction is the course often chosen.
When you hear many Dems speak, there is a decided lack of assuredness. This isn't true for President Obama and perhaps Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton. But it is for Harry Reid and most others. They look at themselves as being weak. Even if they had 25 percent of the arrogance of the right, it would improve their image in so many ways. But they don't. They're insecure.
The left simply can't get over that loss in 2004. They can't get over the millions of people who view them as being terrorist loving socialists who want to Hitler their way into everyone's life. In so many ways, the complete fabrication, lies and unreality are too much to take. The ass whoopings in 2006 and 2008 don't matter. It doesn't matter that they are the party in power. As long as this insecurity exists and they act accordingly, they will always be the "weaker" of the two.
Even though the exact opposite is true.
22 comments:
Marxy, Marxy, Marxy,
We try so hard to explain things to you, but you Just. Don't. Get. Us. One would think you're deliberately ignoring our actual arguments, just so you can pretend we're your own imaginary scarecrow (#5 & #12).
You might as well stop pretending. You stopped openly demonizing conservatives (because you realized you sounded way too much like the Nazis attacking the Jews), but this post proves that you're still building that little voodoo doll inside your skull.
hmm, that's weird. I thought Mark was offering an analysis of Democrats, not Republicans. And the only Nazis around are the ones who openly hate gays and non whites. Which party do these people belong to?
"How could such a large group of people support someone clearly not competent to be president?"
Who is this statement about? Hint: it's not Democrats.
"Compare George W Bush, for example, to Sarah Palin. Or Christine O'Donnell."
Are these Democrats?
"I wouldn't be surprised at all if a resurrected Colonel Flagg become the GOP nominee in 2012."
Is the GOP nominee the candidate for the Democrat party?
"The fear of that many people (the conservative base) obeying a collection of individuals (the GOP leaders and now the Tea Party) who so clearly act against their best interests is overwhelming"
Again, who is this statement about. Hint: it's not Democrats.
Get your head out of your ass Angela.
As for Nazis, you missed a VERY important word in my statement: LIKE, as in "similar to."
Think, damn you!
Sounds like someone misses Mark over at the Smallest Minority web site. Why don't you comment there any more, Mark? Finally taking our collective advice?
Suffice to say, you're right. It's all about insecurity for the Democrats. I share the same thoughts and feelings as you do. It's astounding to me that after so much failure and far too many clearly wrong choices, people still support conservatives. Clearly, they aren't thinking and quickly jump to anger and hate. There's no rationality whatsoever in supporting nearly all of their policies. All they have left is gotcha moments, bile, and an insatiable need to win the argument-all of which does nothing to solve any of our nation's problems.
I've been thinking a lot about what drives Democrats and what drives Republicans from a psychological point of view.
This is not going to end well.
I realize it's over generalizing but one can't help but see patterns.
Imposing patterns, or as you might otherwise call it - confirmation bias.
I've spent a fair amount of time analyzing the GOP mindset and how they act based on their beliefs and ideology.
You construct straw-men of what you suppose to be someone else's motivations and ignore all contrary evidence when presented. I think you are being overly generous with yourself to call that "analyzing".
Reality ceased making sense for Democrats after that. It certainly did for me.
And of course the cause of that confusion is ONLY to be found in what OTHER people are about?
That reminds me of a Churchill bon mot - how a certain person stumbled upon the truth but quickly picked himself up and dusted himself off so that no one would notice.
You don't understand what other people do or why - fine; just don't make up absurd explanations about that. Admit that you don't get it and move on. It is painful to watch you abuse yourself so.
How could such a large group of people support someone clearly not competent to be president?
Oh man, that is just so ironic! Obama defines incompetence, a title taken away from Carter, and you just press on.....classic.
When you hear many Dems speak, there is a decided lack of assuredness. This isn't true for President Obama and perhaps Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton.
Man oh man, stop...these are so great! You know why those three idiots don't lack assuredness[sic]? Reagan had a great quote about that:
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so."
There is your assuredness[sic] in a nutshell.
You got one thing right, Democraps are insecure. They are getting exposed for being in over their head, policy failures, and steady steams of corruption in the party. This on a scale never seen before.
Couple of things...
Why is that conservatives always take great offense at having their words and actions repeated back to them? There are no straw men here, juris. This is what they say. I'm simply wondering...WTF?
Since the subject of Jimmy Carter has come up-why is OK to still bash him 30 years later but not blame Bush two years later?
"Why is that conservatives always take great offense at having their words and actions repeated back to them? There are no straw men here, juris."
It says so much that you are absolutely cock-sure about that, yet you are so wrong that FAIL! doesn't even begin to cover it. You're so enamored with your goddamned burlap voodoo doll that you are absolutely incapable of understanding why conservatives don't scream every time you stick pins into it.
Get your fucking head out of the sand and start trying to actually UNDERSTAND conservatives. (You too Tess. Your comment showed the same damned blindness.) Because the road you're headed down leads to someplace like Concord, NH. King George was just as unwilling to listen as you are, and look where that led.
geekwitha45 nailed it when he wrote:
"Should it ever come to bloodshed, many an Annointed will bleed in ignorance, never comprehending themselves to be the aggressor…"
Right now that describes you to a "T." Figure it out. Remember, conservatives are not the ones who made this or this. We will just be defending ourselves from that mentality; your mentality.
Why is that conservatives always take great offense at having their words and actions repeated back to them?
Verbatim, right?
You almost never fail to incorrectly re-state what you think you've heard. Are you familiar with active listening? Well, actually I'm pretty sure you can't be.
You re-form every argument to fit your preconceptions - the very thing you accuse "the other guys" of doing to liberals.
If the irony dripped off any harder it would surely break your toes when it landed.
Look, I certainly do not understand the left/liberal hatred of business (or specifically "corporations"), but I don't make up harebrained theories about why those people are as screwed up as they are. They just are. And they will be that way until THEY decide to change. And I really don't mind as long as whatever it is they believe doesn't impinge on me. I feel the same way about religious people. It is not my mission in life to make everyone else in the world conform to what I think makes sense. People have reasons - very likely reasons I may never understand, but that doesn't mean I have to demand that they change.
Okay, so far as I can tell, the consensus among the left here is:
"Allowing people freedom isn't producing the results we want. So instead, we'll require the results we want and force people to conform (unless their big Dem party donors in which case they can get a waiver). Yes, it takes away their freedom to choose, but who cares? And it doesn't matter how big a majority opposes it later, if a majority ever supported what I want, then 'I won', so I'm justified in doing it."
Right?
Somehow I get this feeling that such a style of government won't be acceptable to you when and if a conservative is in control.
Go figure.
Yes, it takes away their freedom to choose
This much I do understand about both lefties and righties (mostly social cons) - freedom to choose doesn't matter when you choose something they don't want. All that matters is conformity.
Yet another irony in how they spew so indignantly about being compared to one another.
Speaking Truth, ah yes, those videos. The problem here is that I think you don't get what they are trying to say and you look at them in a very predictable way. Now, if I say it's the usual "They's a comin to gin me" paranoid view, would that be a straw man? Even though you have exemplified that perfectly.
The reason why videos like this were made in the first place is because people like you have a pathological need to win arguments...never giving an inch to anyone left of your spot on the 1 yard line to the right of the football field....despite the evidence. At the end of the day, though, I'm not concerned at all about climate change debate. Reality will once again prove you to be wrong as more evidence is gathered.
You will continue to blather on about liberal plots and junk science while the rest of us (starting it seems with the US military) will make strides in changing our future for the better in a myriad of ways...one of which will be an economic boom. I'd like to think that all that money that is out there to be made will at least convert a few righties.
"do not understand the left/liberal hatred of business"
Clearly you don't because I don't hate business. I hate criminals and want them to to go to jail.
"we'll require the results we want and force people to conform"
That's what comes out of the filter you put it through but it's not even close to reality. The way I see it you just want to live life by your own rules and everyone else can go fuck themselves. Sorry, but societies with PEOPLE don't work that way. I know there have been many comments on here of late about this but more and more I see conservatives as my eight year old son. And, actually, my wife! They'd rather do something that would make them miserable than admit that someone else might know a better way. Their stubbornness knows no bounds. They completely lack any sort of reflection or self acutalization and can never admit when they are wrong.
Clearly you don't because I don't hate business.
Not even Centerpoint/RMR? Not health insurance companies? Hell, there are specific businesses that I hate, just not business in general.
I hate criminals and want them to to go to jail.
Like the Centerpoint/RMR guys that "forced" their way into your house? Oh, wait, they weren't breaking any laws, which means they weren't criminals.
The way I see it you just want to live life by your own rules and everyone else can go fuck themselves. Sorry, but societies with PEOPLE don't work that way.
If there weren't any people I wouldn't need a rule for them to leave me alone - which for the most part is the default rule in society, don't fuck with other people. But SOME people just can stand that - they just HAVE to try (at least) to force everyone to conform to some particular idea.
Here's a paradox for you M - the liberal/progressive world is all about diversity, right? Except for diversity of thought.
...than admit that someone else might know a better way.
And just who the fuck are YOU to know what is a better way for anyone other than yourself? The egotism in that is just astounding. You're damn right you don't know what is best for your wife - which is why she has no reason to submit to you. If you aren't even properly equipped to tell someone close to you what is "best for them", how can you claim to know what is best for me or any other person you bump into?
Speaking Truth, ah yes, those videos. The problem here is that I think you don't get what they are trying to say and you look at them in a very predictable way. Now, if I say it's the usual "They's a comin to gin me" paranoid view, would that be a straw man? Even though you have exemplified that perfectly.
Okaay... so if I find people making kiddie snuff because the kiddies in question failed to be enthusiastic enough shills and propagandists for global warming, I'm being paranoid, and your condescending dismissal is justified. This in spite of the words of James Hansen and others like him:
http://blog.acton.org/archives/2378-global-warming-consensus-alert-crimes-against-humanity.html
...but if Sarah Palin dares to use the word "targeting" when speaking of congressional races, she's "comin to gin ya" and it's a perfect example of the violence inherent in conservative thought. Of course, when Obama speaks of "hand-to-hand combat" in Congress if Republicans win, that's... different somehow, right?
At the end of the day, though, I'm not concerned at all about climate change debate. Reality will once again prove you to be wrong as more evidence is gathered.
Of course it will. It makes no different that the first set of "evidence" was shown to be fraudulent, and the gatherers thereof to be frauds... it will happen because you believe.
A perfect example of "the reality based community". I couldn't have done better if I'd written it as a spoof.
Seriously, Mark, how can you continue to talk to these people?
>Seriously, Mark, how can you continue to talk to these people?
He generally doesn't. We point out gaping holes in his "logic", he hopes that by ignoring those holes they will disappear. Rinse and repeat with nearly every post.
My recent favorite is Mark's "The Shine of the Free Market" post. The amount of whistling past the graveyard there is awfully high, even by Mark's low standards.
Seriously, Mark, how can you continue to talk to these people?
And there you have it. If I dare point out the blatant contradictions in your line of argument, I declare myself to be "the other" in your estimation.
Color me unsurprised.
Give up, Mark. There's no shame in ceasing to pound your head against an immovable object. And look at the bright side. Your head won't hurt as much:)
>Give up, Mark. There's no shame in ceasing to pound your head against an immovable object. And look at the bright side. Your head won't hurt as much:)
Agreed. We've been trying to teach him rational thought for 3+ years now. He's doesn't seem capable of learning.
jeff c. and daniel, as open-minded as Westboro Baptist believers.
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