The "independent" investigation that of course won't have a report until well after the election.
Isn't that convenient?
And since when did YOU start embracing Fox and W's Scty of State? Wasn't she a part of the great Satan's lying White House? Nor did she excuse the actions of the Administration. Another of M's classic claims that a link supports his position when it doesn't.
If you had an ounce of integrity you'd at least admit the Administration story about the Youtube video was horse-shit. But you ate it all up - so I suppose you can't admit that you are a shit-eater.
No wonder you want the discussion ended. You still won't say why obama went out and talked about a video so much. No wonder his poll numbers are tanking, which is probably why you have stopped posting poll updates on here. Yeah, NOW you start trusting Bush administration officials??
Fox News and others report that military help was available during the terrorist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya, but denied. CIA and Pentagon officials strongly deny the claim.
I get that you hate the president and are rooting for him to fail but let's wait to see what happens when all the facts are examined. Can we at least agree that all the facts are not in yet?
No wonder his poll numbers are tanking
Where? Actually, Nevada is no longer considered a tossup and the president leads, as he has for the last few weeks, in most of the battleground states. I stopped putting up the polls because they largely say the same thing as they have pretty much settled.
I get that you hate the president and are rooting for him to failc
Wrong you ass-licking partisan toad.
I want the truth about what happened. I want a leader that owns up if it was his mistakes. I know that is probably not possible with most politicians - and certainly not Obama. But that is what I want in a President.
Can we at least agree that all the facts are not in yet?
No we can't. The facts are in - the Administration wants to obscure them until the election is over.
If the facts really aren't in, then what the hell was the Administration doing before, during and immediately after this happened? Not being in command of that is a failure all it's own.
Clearly you've lost your rational capacity for critical thought here, juris. Obama is as guilty as Richard Nixon. Why don't we take him out to the town square and tar and feather him?
I understand (despite your faux insistence) that you spend a lot of time in the right wing bubble of Fox News, Matt Drudge and Erik Erikson but their creations don't translate immediately into reality.
I want a leader that owns up if it was his mistakes.
I have no doubt that all the facts are known to those in power. They are not disclosing them to us. You don't care about that, do you? You don't care because of your uncritical, unquestioning devotion to your fucking hero-king.
I understand...
You understand nothing about me you pissant partisan ass licker. Not one thing. I just won't conform to the little box inside your head that I am supposed to fit in. And the funniest bit is you seem to think that is my fault. I can't imagine what a sad excuse for a teacher you must actually be.
“What my attitude on this is is if we find out there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job, they’ll be held accountable,” said Obama
LMAO - you would of course think that means something - it passed forth from His Lips. Only 17 days after the shit hit the fan too. You are the death of the republic.
I hope after the election your partisan madness abates and we can return to discussing Stiglitz.
This sounds to me an awful lot like a hunch in front of a pathological hatred of the US government.
There is that little box inside your head. I think you would find it very liberating to stop trying to fit things into it that do not fit. Lord knows - the things you might actually learn. That probably frightens you, doesn't it?
I don't distrust the govt. I distrust people - particularly people that prove themselves untrustworthy. People that lie, repeatedly, are not trustworthy - and even less so when they have power. The Administration knew from the start that the video had nothing to do with what had happened. No intel agency is admitting to pushing that angle to the WH (now, that could of course be bureaucratic ass-covering itself). Aside from that, how the fuck did they allow such a high ranking govt official to be so easily assaulted? It could simply be incompetence - but Obama cadged that "responsibility" of his with an "if" and "held accountable". That sounds to me like they haven't lined up a suitable low-level scapegoat yet. And your devotion continues, unquestioning and unbending. Even a lapdog has more dignity.
Do you think it's possible, juris, that the administration did some of the things you mention on purpose? Think about it for a minute. Suppose they knew that it wasn't the video but a coordinated attack. What purpose does it serve to announce it? What purpose does it serve not to announce it?
I agree that there are things they are hiding. Does that mean they are bad things or that they are hiding to cover up incompetence? Or another reason
So you actually do see that this isn't the "most transparent Administration" ever. Yet you don't criticize them in the slightest for failing to live up to what they promised.
Or another reason
Sure. Most likely in my mind is to win re-election. That puts these guys right up in the same league as the Nixon Admin.
Mark, you moron, it's been almost 50 days since the attack. If the Administration DOESN'T know all the facts by now, then they are so grossly stupid and incompetent, they should be impeached en masse. Especially since they already knew what information they had and what decisions they made based on that information AS IT HAPPENED. So they're highly incompetent, lying their asses off, or most probably both.
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The "independent" investigation that of course won't have a report until well after the election.
Isn't that convenient?
And since when did YOU start embracing Fox and W's Scty of State? Wasn't she a part of the great Satan's lying White House? Nor did she excuse the actions of the Administration. Another of M's classic claims that a link supports his position when it doesn't.
If you had an ounce of integrity you'd at least admit the Administration story about the Youtube video was horse-shit. But you ate it all up - so I suppose you can't admit that you are a shit-eater.
Did you actually watch this? Seems unlikely...
What part of we don't have all the facts did you not understand, Dave?
Slow-rolling the fact gathering so the results come after the election. That is pure partisan bullshit.
Obama dodges the question.
You trust the CSM don't you markadelphia?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2012/1027/Benghazi-attack-Urgent-call-for-military-help-was-denied-by-chain-of-command
No wonder you want the discussion ended. You still won't say why obama went out and talked about a video so much. No wonder his poll numbers are tanking, which is probably why you have stopped posting poll updates on here. Yeah, NOW you start trusting Bush administration officials??
Sub headline...
Fox News and others report that military help was available during the terrorist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya, but denied. CIA and Pentagon officials strongly deny the claim.
I get that you hate the president and are rooting for him to fail but let's wait to see what happens when all the facts are examined. Can we at least agree that all the facts are not in yet?
No wonder his poll numbers are tanking
Where? Actually, Nevada is no longer considered a tossup and the president leads, as he has for the last few weeks, in most of the battleground states. I stopped putting up the polls because they largely say the same thing as they have pretty much settled.
I get that you hate the president and are rooting for him to failc
Wrong you ass-licking partisan toad.
I want the truth about what happened. I want a leader that owns up if it was his mistakes. I know that is probably not possible with most politicians - and certainly not Obama. But that is what I want in a President.
Can we at least agree that all the facts are not in yet?
No we can't. The facts are in - the Administration wants to obscure them until the election is over.
If the facts really aren't in, then what the hell was the Administration doing before, during and immediately after this happened? Not being in command of that is a failure all it's own.
I want the truth about what happened.
The facts are in
Which is it?
Clearly you've lost your rational capacity for critical thought here, juris. Obama is as guilty as Richard Nixon. Why don't we take him out to the town square and tar and feather him?
I understand (despite your faux insistence) that you spend a lot of time in the right wing bubble of Fox News, Matt Drudge and Erik Erikson but their creations don't translate immediately into reality.
I want a leader that owns up if it was his mistakes.
You mean like this?
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/264469-obama-says-he-is-ultimately-responsible-for-benghazi-security
Which is it?
I have no doubt that all the facts are known to those in power. They are not disclosing them to us. You don't care about that, do you? You don't care because of your uncritical, unquestioning devotion to your fucking hero-king.
I understand...
You understand nothing about me you pissant partisan ass licker. Not one thing. I just won't conform to the little box inside your head that I am supposed to fit in. And the funniest bit is you seem to think that is my fault. I can't imagine what a sad excuse for a teacher you must actually be.
“What my attitude on this is is if we find out there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job, they’ll be held accountable,” said Obama
LMAO - you would of course think that means something - it passed forth from His Lips. Only 17 days after the shit hit the fan too. You are the death of the republic.
I hope after the election your partisan madness abates and we can return to discussing Stiglitz.
I have no doubt that all the facts are known to those in power.
Based on what evidence? This sounds to me an awful lot like a hunch in front of a pathological hatred of the US government.
we can return to discussing Stiglitz.
I'll likely be putting up a post for the next chapter this week.
This sounds to me an awful lot like a hunch in front of a pathological hatred of the US government.
There is that little box inside your head. I think you would find it very liberating to stop trying to fit things into it that do not fit. Lord knows - the things you might actually learn. That probably frightens you, doesn't it?
I don't distrust the govt. I distrust people - particularly people that prove themselves untrustworthy. People that lie, repeatedly, are not trustworthy - and even less so when they have power. The Administration knew from the start that the video had nothing to do with what had happened. No intel agency is admitting to pushing that angle to the WH (now, that could of course be bureaucratic ass-covering itself). Aside from that, how the fuck did they allow such a high ranking govt official to be so easily assaulted? It could simply be incompetence - but Obama cadged that "responsibility" of his with an "if" and "held accountable". That sounds to me like they haven't lined up a suitable low-level scapegoat yet. And your devotion continues, unquestioning and unbending. Even a lapdog has more dignity.
Do you think it's possible, juris, that the administration did some of the things you mention on purpose? Think about it for a minute. Suppose they knew that it wasn't the video but a coordinated attack. What purpose does it serve to announce it? What purpose does it serve not to announce it?
I agree that there are things they are hiding. Does that mean they are bad things or that they are hiding to cover up incompetence? Or another reason
I agree that there are things they are hiding.
So you actually do see that this isn't the "most transparent Administration" ever. Yet you don't criticize them in the slightest for failing to live up to what they promised.
Or another reason
Sure. Most likely in my mind is to win re-election. That puts these guys right up in the same league as the Nixon Admin.
Mark, you moron, it's been almost 50 days since the attack. If the Administration DOESN'T know all the facts by now, then they are so grossly stupid and incompetent, they should be impeached en masse. Especially since they already knew what information they had and what decisions they made based on that information AS IT HAPPENED. So they're highly incompetent, lying their asses off, or most probably both.
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